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Old 04-12-2010, 10:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First of all, there should be an entire "Outback vs. ......." part of the forum, but anyway...

I'm torn between the new Outback and the new VW Tiguan. Both are different, but similar. Haven't been able to test drive a H6 Outback yet, but the Tiguan's finish seems much better than Subaru's, at least on first glance. Prices are about equal.

Anyone drive / compare these two?
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I haven't driven the Tiguan yet, but I'm sure it has the edge on fit & finish and is more fun to drive. The Outback has the edge in AWD capability and cargo space. Long term reliability is likely better on the Outback too.

It depends on what is important to you as to which is better. I personally kind of wish I had tried the Tiguan before I purchased my Outback.

I asked over on vwvotex whether or not the folks there compared the Tiguan to the Outback before they made their purchase, so this thread may be of interest to you: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4845141
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Gas mileage difference is pretty huge.

Tiguan automatic - 18/24
Outback autoCVT - 23/29

That's an average of about a 25% improvement in gas mileage, which is significant.
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They aren't even in the same category Tiguan VS Forrester then you have a comparison

Tiguan
Exterior
Length: 174.3 in. Width: 71.2 in.
Height: 66.3 in. Wheel Base: 102.5 in.
Ground Clearance: 6.9 in. Curb Weight: 3433 lbs.
Gross Weight: 4785 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 39.1 in. Front Shoulder Room: 56.2 in.
Rear Head Room: 39 in. Rear Shoulder Room: 54.8 in.
Front Leg Room: 40.1 in. Rear Leg Room: 35.8 in.
Luggage Capacity: 23.8 cu. ft. Maximum Cargo Capacity: 56 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5

Outback
Dimensions
Exterior Length: 188.2 in. Width: 71.7 in. Height: 65.7 in. Wheel Base: 107.9 in. Ground Clearance: 8.7 in. Interior Front Hip Room: 54.5 in. Front Shoulder Room: 56.3 in. Rear Shoulder Room: 56.1 in. Rear Hip Room: 53.9 in. Rear Leg Room: 37.8 in. Maximum Cargo Capacity: 71 cu. ft. Maximum Seating: 5


Forrester
Dimensions

Exterior
Length: 179.5 in. Width: 70.1 in.
Height: 66.9 in. Wheel Base: 103 in.
Ground Clearance: 8.7 in. Curb Weight: 3340 lbs.
Gross Weight: 4480 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 40 in. Front Shoulder Room: 56.1 in.
Rear Head Room: 37.7 in. Rear Shoulder Room: 55.6 in.
Front Leg Room: 43.1 in. Rear Leg Room: 38 in.
Luggage Capacity: 30.8 cu. ft. Maximum Cargo Capacity: 63 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5


Your comparing apples and oranges With the Tiguan vs Outback

For giggles the 2001 Jetta numbers
Exterior
Length: 173.6 in. Width: 68.3 in.
Height: 58.5 in. Wheel Base: 99 in.
Ground Clearance: 5.2 in. Curb Weight: 3079 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 38.6 in. Front Shoulder Room: 53.7 in.
Rear Head Room: 38.1 in. Rear Shoulder Room: 52.5 in.
Front Leg Room: 41.5 in. Rear Leg Room: 33.5 in.
Maximum Seating: 5

The 2009 Jetta numbers
Exterior
Length: 179.4 in. Width: 70.1 in.
Height: 59.2 in. Wheel Base: 101.5 in.
Ground Clearance: 5.4 in. Curb Weight: 3228 lbs.
Gross Weight: 4209 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 38.4 in. Front Shoulder Room: 54.8 in.
Rear Head Room: 38.1 in. Rear Shoulder Room: 53.1 in.
Front Leg Room: 41.1 in. Rear Leg Room: 35.5 in.
Luggage Capacity: 32.8 cu. ft. Maximum Cargo Capacity: 67 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5
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Which case you should be looking at the following also

Honda CRV
Toyota RAV4
GM Equinox
Ford Edge

Given they all are in the same class of vehicle regarding size etc.
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They aren't even in the same category Tiguan VS Forrester then you have a comparison

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Your comparing apples and oranges With the Tiguan vs Outback

When you just take dimensions or your specific needs into consideration it may be apples and oranges to you, but to many others it is quite appropriate to cross shop them.

I think the set of features, fit and finish, and handling and price point make this a good choice to use for comparison. To some people, the respective advantages of either one may outweigh the shortcomings of the other. Itís a matter of personal choice. Both are known as fine cars to own.
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Yeah, I cross shopped the Suzuki SX4, MazdaSpeed3, Lancer Sportback, etc.

Sometimes it's certain features/traits that people are looking for, not a particular vehicle class.
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I cross-shopped the Tiguan, although it didn't make my short list, due to its cargo capacity being too limited.

It is a very nice vehicle, though, if the smaller capacity is not an issue for you. The exterior looks nice, and the interior is (like all Audis and VWs) very nice.

One comment worth noting is that the Tiguan is fairly pricey, and for the price of a 2.0T Tiguan, you can get the 3.6R Outback, and STILL get very-slightly better gas mileage. (Or, save some money and get the 25% gas mileage improvement with the 2.5i.)

Plus, the Tiguan's 2.0T takes premium gas.
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I have always found VW and Audi have excellent quality interiors and while they get dinged for the reliability part some people have had good luck. If your buying your car and plan on keeping it for 10 years the OB is the clear choice. I like leasing German cars.
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Ya agreed, the Tiguan is smaller, takes premium gas (and more of it) and costs more. Whoever said they are "about equal" in price was either mistaken or was comparing a 2WD Tiguan to the AWD Subaru. The most basic AWD Tiguan available (if you can find one) starts at about $27K and the middle range SE model is over $30K to start. Expensive VW options will increase those amount quickly. In addition, there's less profit and holdback in VW prices, which means real-world prices are even further apart since dealers can't deal on the VWs like they can on Subarus.

Tiguan is with Forester, CR-V etc in terms of size but is much more premium than any of the others.

It's a great vehicle. I traded a VW for my Outback and really considered a Tiguan. But I paid cash and could not afford one, and besides my mountain bike would not fit in the back without a hassle.
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