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Old 01-15-2013, 11:58 PM   #531 (permalink)
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You mean car to car? Or different sessions from the same car?

The realistic answer is that the numbers will never be exactly the same. You could get an alignment, pull the sensors off the wheel, back the car up, roll it forward again, re-attach the sensors, and get a different reading. But it shouldn't be too different.
No, when I look at the different print outs, I see different values for what is considered within spec. I.e. on my print out front toe range is -.15 to .15 on the one submitted by Joem, the range is -.08 to .08. I think that I have seen three different "specified" ranges. Rear toe also varies. Cobalt has made the same observation.
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Here is mine which I posted before. I also called SOA and verified that they are the same as the MY12.
It does show 0.08 plus minus front
Rear 0.17 plus minus...
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:43 PM   #533 (permalink)
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Had my alignment done today because I was dealing with the wandering issue as well. The dealer initially told me the wandering was due to the tires being below the required pressure (conviniently the tire pressure light illuminated on my way to the dealership).

Anyhow I still asked them to do an alignment and it feels significantly better on my way home. Attached is the report.
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Had my alignment done today because I was dealing with the wandering issue as well. The dealer initially told me the wandering was due to the tires being below the required pressure (conviniently the tire pressure light illuminated on my way to the dealership).

Anyhow I still asked them to do an alignment and it feels significantly better on my way home. Attached is the report.
Dear Lord! Your car was WAY out of spec in regards to toe. I can't imagine how tough it must have been to keep your car straight. Looks like they did a decent job with zero toe up front and slight toe in in the rear. A little toe in in the front wouldn't hurt.
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Dear Lord! Your car was WAY out of spec in regards to toe. I can't imagine how tough it must have been to keep your car straight. Looks like they did a decent job with zero toe up front and slight toe in in the rear. A little toe in in the front wouldn't hurt.
At first I did not complain too much because I thought that I had to get used to the OB, and around here I seldom exceed 65 MPH, but a couple of HW trips freaked me out. I am looking for a good shop around me to help me tweak it the alignment as it is still not where I want it. What annoys me is the guy had the nerve to tell me it was just my tires needing more air.
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The last two reports also stateMY2010- 2012 and non state 2013. I sent all this and the link to this thread to the service manager I am using now. He called me and stated he was going to look into it with Subie N/A.

We are growing here in leaps and bounds. It would be great if all the people who have the same problem would speak up. But todays generation just lays down and take it in the pants.
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The last two reports also stateMY2010- 2012 and non state 2013. I sent all this and the link to this thread to him. He called me and stated he was going to look into it with Subie N/A.

We are growing here in leaps and bounds. It would be great if all the people who have the same problem would speak up. But todays generation just lays down and take it in the pants.
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The last two reports also stateMY2010- 2012 and non state 2013. I sent all this and the link to this thread to the service manager I am using now. He called me and stated he was going to look into it with Subie N/A.

We are growing here in leaps and bounds. It would be great if all the people who have the same problem would speak up. But todays generation just lays down and take it in the pants.
Good job JOEM...SOA needs to know about this issue and they need to do something about it.

You're definitely right about today's generation...nobody gives a #$?!@ anymore! It's really sad. Everyone walks around like freakin zombies with this "whatever" attitude. I can't stand it. Anyway, I digress...

Even though my '13 OB seems much better after the 2nd alignment, I am still going to call SOA and complain. There is no reason or excuse that these cars are leaving the factory with their alignments so out of specifications. Where is the quality control? Are these cars even test driven before they leave for the dealers? My OB felt downright dangerous to drive on the highway and my wife refused to drive it (and it's her daily driver!). Also, there is no reason or excuse that in December of 2012, my dealer still doesn't have the alignment specifications uploaded in their alignment machines for 2013 OB's. What's up with that??? The 2013's were out in mid 2012 for God's sake! SOA get with it!!!

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Here is a suggestion.
Start a thread with the title that fits the problem like

"Unacceptable OB Wander----Alignment Specs Bad"

and have those of use add to the thread with our user names (sign up list). Beleive me Subaru reads this forum because this is the main forum in the US for the Outback. I have seen this done countless times on other auto forums and it gets results. No more complaining randomly lets do something about it as long as it doesn't violate forum rules.
Waiting on feedback on this idea
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Here is a suggestion.
Start a thread with the title that fits the problem like

"Unacceptable OB Wander----Alignment Specs Bad"

and have those of use add to the thread with our user names (sign up list). Beleive me Subaru reads this forum because this is the main forum in the US for the Outback. I have seen this done countless times on other auto forums and it gets results. No more complaining randomly lets do something about it as long as it doesn't violate forum rules.
Waiting on feedback on this idea
I'm in if it's legal around here.
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