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Old 08-14-2011, 10:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone ever notice that the index in the back of the OB's owner's manual has a listing for:

Automatic rain sensing windshield wipers ...................... 3-32

but there is no information on page 3-32 about this feature. . . maybe a future option(?).
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Not surprising.

In reference to the discussion about tires (http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/...tml#post352163),

I just found this on page 3-20 of the 2011 Owners Manual:

The All-Wheel Drive warning light illuminates when the ignition switch is turned to the “ON” position and turns off after the engine has started.

For AT models
This light flashes if the vehicle is driven with tires of different diameters fitted on its wheels or with the air pressure excessively low in any of its tires.

For CVT models
This light illuminates when All-Wheel Drive is disengaged and the drive mechanism is switched to Front Wheel Drive for maintenance or similar purposes.
This light flashes if the vehicle is driven with tires of different diameters fitted on its wheels or with the air pressure excessively low in any of its tires.
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Yet, the OP's car in the linked thread was driven with the compact spare for long distances without any warning light coming on. The statement about the AWD light flashing if an odd size or low pressure tire is being used has now been repeated in the Owners Manual from at least 2005 on, yet no one has ever reported the light coming on in either case.

There was a thread here in 2009 about using the AWD disabling fuse where, finally, a representative from SOA confirmed that the fuse wasn't applicable if the car has VDC. But is this really the case given that even in 2011, there's still the indication that if a tire has a different circumference the AWD light should flash, even if the fuse is no longer available! (See especially the SOA response in this post: (AWD/FWD required on 08 OBW's w/2.5L NA 4EATs?)

Probably all related to translation and selling cars in different markets. But still, as you noted, "Nothing like clear consistent communication". (http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/...tml#post352333)

Rain sensing wipers? Perhaps when they finally get the AWD to flash!
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its a japaneese car, more than likely that feature is not available on cars sold in north america, but that doesn't really make sense because of how much we love accessories/luxury features. honda brought us acura, toyota-lexus, nissan-infiniti, maybe subaru is planning luxaru
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Based on my experience with other cars having rain sensing wipers, I'd just as soon have the variable intermittent wipers as found on my OB.
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Based on my experience with other cars having rain sensing wipers, I'd just as soon have the variable intermittent wipers as found on my OB.
I would agree but I was just amused that Subaru had a index entry for a non-existing option. If they're going to list things thay don't have how about a 1.21 gigawatt flux capacitor?

Edit - non-existing in the US that is.
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Based on my experience with other cars having rain sensing wipers, I'd just as soon have the variable intermittent wipers as found on my OB.
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My Australian 3.6 Premium has the auto wipers. They're not too bad, however they don't always "read" the rain drops perfectly requiring the occasional manual assistance. They seem to be most ineffective at dusk. Something about the light level seems to confuse them and they don't wipe often enough. That said, under normal conditions they work quite well.
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Interesting that you say that doug5k, I just bought a 2012 3.6R with auto wipers and find that they are too frequent even on the '-' setting and worse (although not a great deal different) on the '+' setting. Do you use RainX or similar ? I usually do but haven't got as far as putting it on yet and not sure how it will affect the sensor.
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Interesting...
My Chrysler 300C had rain sensing wipers and it's one of the features I miss most of all --aside from that brilliant (and thirsty) v8.
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Not surprising.

In reference to the discussion about tires (http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/...tml#post352163),

I just found this on page 3-20 of the 2011 Owners Manual:

The All-Wheel Drive warning light illuminates when the ignition switch is turned to the “ON” position and turns off after the engine has started.

For AT models
This light flashes if the vehicle is driven with tires of different diameters fitted on its wheels or with the air pressure excessively low in any of its tires.

For CVT models
This light illuminates when All-Wheel Drive is disengaged and the drive mechanism is switched to Front Wheel Drive for maintenance or similar purposes.
This light flashes if the vehicle is driven with tires of different diameters fitted on its wheels or with the air pressure excessively low in any of its tires.
(underlines added)

Yet, the OP's car in the linked thread was driven with the compact spare for long distances without any warning light coming on. The statement about the AWD light flashing if an odd size or low pressure tire is being used has now been repeated in the Owners Manual from at least 2005 on, yet no one has ever reported the light coming on in either case.

There was a thread here in 2009 about using the AWD disabling fuse where, finally, a representative from SOA confirmed that the fuse wasn't applicable if the car has VDC. But is this really the case given that even in 2011, there's still the indication that if a tire has a different circumference the AWD light should flash, even if the fuse is no longer available! (See especially the SOA response in this post: (AWD/FWD required on 08 OBW's w/2.5L NA 4EATs?)

Probably all related to translation and selling cars in different markets. But still, as you noted, "Nothing like clear consistent communication". (http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/...tml#post352333)

Rain sensing wipers? Perhaps when they finally get the AWD to flash!
I believe my 2008 has this in the manual as well. I drove home on a donut once and never got the light to come on. The only time I ever see it is for a few seconds on startup.
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