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Outback Diesel Availability in the U.S.

Is there any chance the Outback Diesel will be available in the U.S. in 2012 or 2013?

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"So, like, 1 in 1000?"

"More like 1 in a million."

"So you're telling me there's a chance."

I seriously doubt it. Diesel has a (unjustified) stigma in this country.

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Not going to happen for a while untill there is a proven demand (ie more then what people on boards say) for deisels. There are a few tech bugs but they would be worked out if demand dictated.

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For a 2012/13 model? Not a chance.

There is not enough consumer demand.

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After I was driving a Skoda Turbo Diesel on a recent vacation, getting about 45 mpg on mixed highway/gravel roads, I was thinking the very same.

But I think the only way would be for each of us on these various Subaru forums to write them a letter that we demand a Diesel.

I did let them know last time I communicated with them. I did my part. Now you do yours, already!
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as of right now, not a chance. if gas goes to $6 a gallon maybe SOA will bring it here. but even then diesel would be like $7 a gallon so its pretty doubtful

who cares about resale value? this is an outback, not getting something else til at least 200k miles!

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There is not enough consumer demand.
And unless/until Mother Soobie develops a diesel-compatible
automatic tranny, USofA consumer demand will remain nil.

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You would see companies Honda, Toyota, Mazda etc... adopt diesel in the US before Subaru. Like it has already been said, lack of (Mainstream) demand. People that buy sub $30K vehicles are Subaru's core market.

A diesel Outback in even the lowest trim would likely start around $30k stripped and pushing $40+K in full limited trim. I'm not even sure VW sells a loaded TDi they are typically stripped to keep the price point down.

I also don't see what the facination with diesel is here? I used to own an '05 Dodge Ram 2500 with Cummins diesel, it was nice, had lots of torque, avg'd 16 mpgs around town 18-20 on the highway. Truth be told I love my '11 gas Ford F-150 a lot more. It also gets 18-21 mpg's avg, is much faster around town, passing and getting on the highway. The only thing the dodge was better at was towing heavy loads of which I don't do any more.

So I'm curious how a diesel Outback would make that significant of a better car than the current 2.5i & 3.6R? I guess I would rather have the WRX motor in an Outback before I would want a complex diesel motor with a DPF and urea to add on top of that. I would trade my car in tommorow for a WRX- powered Outback just saying.

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So I'm curious how a diesel Outback would make that significant
of a better car than the current 2.5i & 3.6R?
Simple. Soobie Germany specs the 2.0D at about 45% better mpg
than the 2.5i -- and over 700 miles per fillup, if memory serves.

Also, the German 2.0D and 2.5i 6MT have exactly the same MSRP.
I have no idea whether equal prices would be possible in the USA,
but it's a moot point, given Muricans' near-universal clutchophobia.

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So I'm curious how a diesel Outback would make that significant of a better car than the current 2.5i & 3.6R?
I would imagine a diesel in an Outback would be someplace north of 40mpg on the freeway, give or take. A diesel made for mileage is far different than your powerhouse made for towing.
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