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Old 08-11-2012, 10:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm about to decide whether I need the navigation package or not. I have some questions:
1. How does the maps upgrade work? And how much does it typically cost?
2. Is it true that the navigation system has a pretty bad re-sale value? It might so happen that I might have to sell my Outback in 4 years (move out of the country..).
3. How are the nav units by Fujitsu ten. I see that this is new on the OB 13.

Please advice!
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If you have to ask whether you need the nav, then chances are you don't need the nav. That said, I decidedly did not need the nav but I wanted eyesight badly enough that I was buying it. Although I would be inclined to resent that add-on, I'm growing to appreciate the features.

The nav is considerably more powerful than my handheld gps ($350 in 2011, a gift). I especially like the traffic/construction updates. The other features such as hands-free calling are compelling safety components. The integrated Bluetooth and voice commands are slick and effective.

I estimate it will add three-, maybe four hundred dollars to trade-in value 4 years out, but you should assume very little in the way of payback if it's a concern. In other words, I find the price hard to justify without regular use. As I've mentioned, I use it a lot more than I thought I would (not so much for finding my way around).

Too soon to know about updates in the '13. The card is easy to access and inexpensive, so it bodes well for swapping.
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Old 08-11-2012, 12:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I can't comment on the exact pricing but generally aftermarket nav upgrades are around $100, for each upgrade (no lifetime upgrades on Garmin's like the portables). OEM nav upgrades are generally more expensive (around $250) and may or may not be available yearly. As for the resale, it's usually added in on the entire package (i.e. Nav/moonroof/eyesight) so its hard to say what it's worth alone. For some of us an aftermarket is much better of an idea. Updates can be a new disc or in most cases these days are a new SD card that is inserted into the unit.

Fujitsu used to make excellent decks in the mid to late 90's but haven't done much in the aftermarket since the early 2000's. It remains to be seen how well they will keep up with updates since they didn't do much with nav in the past, except there association with TomTom.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Folks-
I'm about to decide whether I need the navigation package or not. I have some questions:
1. How does the maps upgrade work? And how much does it typically cost?
2. Is it true that the navigation system has a pretty bad re-sale value? It might so happen that I might have to sell my Outback in 4 years (move out of the country..).
3. How are the nav units by Fujitsu ten. I see that this is new on the OB 13.

Please advice!
1. I don't believe there have been any updates for the new model yet, but according to Subaru updates can be downloaded to your computer and installed on your nav via a SD card. The older units required buying an update DVD.
2. I just went through this with trading in my 2010. NAV added $500. to trade in value.
3. Not many, they are new but so far reviews have been good. I pick mine up on Monday and will post a review as soon as I get some time on it.
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If you spend the money on nav add eyesight or sap. I know its more money but it's really not that much more on a 30k car. My vote is for eyesight.....obviously.
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If you spend the money on nav add eyesight or sap. I know its more money but it's really not that much more on a 30k car. My vote is for eyesight.....obviously.
I concur. I think eyesight or SAP packaging makes for a better buy than a la carte nav.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I see that the questions and replies were back in August. I am having problems with my new Outback and the navigation portion. It is very slow in telling me when to make a turn. Usually "after the fact". I hate to depend on it in an unknown area. I consider this a malfunction an hope there is some fix. Has anyone else experienced this and have you been able to do anything about it. It would also be great to hear that you are NOT having the same problem.
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My nav is excellent. I don't have a slow after the turn experience and the integrated display is really nice when you are doing radio tuning, Bluetooth, actually using nav which I use all the time.
How can you beat updates using the SD card and many have pushed the 8GB to 32GB cards.
Cost to update? How do you calculate an update to a brand new system? I think Subaru picked the SD card because of others complaining about the way the 2010-2012 did it.

As has been said why get nav when Eye Sight comes packaged with nav and moonroof.

I had no use for either but the nav I love, the moonroof is still not valueable to me at all but works well...
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I have 2013 OUtback Limited and the navigation is dangerously inaccurate on a random basis
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I have contacted SOA about timing and pricing of Nav updates for the 2013+ model years with the Fujitsu Ten system. They had no information (yet) on either.
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