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Old 11-22-2012, 02:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I realize this is an OBW forum and I risk incurring the wrath of the collective. However, as I look at the 2014 Forester's specs., I can't help but wonder how Subaru is positioning it with respect to the OBW.

The Forester is shorter, but has more cargo capacity (probably because the snout isn't designed to accommodate the H6). Wheelbase is slightly smaller but other dimensions are essentially the same. Engine is slightly less powerful but gets much better MPG and appears to be in the sweet spot, powerwise.

Perhaps the OBW has a more upscale interior but that isn't clear as yet. What would compel one to pick the OBW over the Forester (I assume that pricing on the Forester would be a notch lower as well)? As I see it, the Forester is very likely the better vehicle. Decisions, decisions...

2013 OBW2014 Forester
Wheelbase 107.9" 103.9
Overall Length 189"180.9
Width 71.7"70.7
Height 66.1" with rails, 65.7" w/o68.2 (66.4w/o rails)
Headroom front/rear 40.8"/39.3"41.4/39.8
Legroom front/rear 43.0"/37.8"43.0/41.7
EPA Cargo volume 34.3cf34.4
EPA cargo volume with seats flat 71.3cf74.7
Track front/rear 61/61"60.9/61.1
Turning circle 36.8ft34.8
Ground clearance8.7"8.7"
Angle of approach 18.3*23
Breakover angle- 2.5L 20.4*, 3.6L 19.5*21
Angle of departure-22.2*25
HP256 (H6)230, 91 octane (2.0T)
Torque247 (H6)258, 93 octane (2.0T)
MPG18/2523/28
FuelRegularPremium
Curb Weight (lb)36473622
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I looked at both before I purchased my 2013 and it came down to styling and more headroom for me.

I also discount any daily driver vehicle that wants me to put premium fuel in it.

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The new Forester is on the "To-be-driven" list as a possible replacement for my current car, although in the XT trim level. I can't really say that I'm willing to NOT have a manual transmission and have to listen to the Subaru CVT whining either. The numbers for the Forester do look appealing though.
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Based off the Impreza like the XV it will not have the quietness and feel of the OB. And I suspect the next gen OB will move farther away from the Forester
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Hi,

I realize this is an OBW forum and I risk incurring the wrath of the collective. However, as I look at the 2014 Forester's specs., I can't help but wonder how Subaru is positioning it with respect to the OBW.

The Forester is shorter, but has more cargo capacity (probably because the snout isn't designed to accommodate the H6). Wheelbase is slightly smaller but other dimensions are essentially the same. Engine is slightly less powerful but gets much better MPG and appears to be in the sweet spot, powerwise.

Perhaps the OBW has a more upscale interior but that isn't clear as yet. What would compel one to pick the OBW over the Forester (I assume that pricing on the Forester would be a notch lower as well)? As I see it, the Forester is very likely the better vehicle. Decisions, decisions...

2013 OBW2014 Forester
Wheelbase107.9" 103.9
Overall Length189"180.9
Width71.7"70.7
Height66.1" with rails, 65.7" w/o68.2 (66.4w/o rails)
Headroom front/rear40.8"/39.3"41.4/39.8
Legroom front/rear43.0"/37.8"43.0/41.7
EPA Cargo volume 34.3cf34.4
EPA cargo volume with seats flat 71.3cf74.7
Track front/rear61/61"60.9/61.1
Turning circle 36.8ft34.8
Ground clearance8.7"8.7"
Angle of approach18.3*23
Breakover angle- 2.5L 20.4*, 3.6L 19.5*21
Angle of departure-22.2*25
HP256 (H6)230, 91 octane (2.0T)
Torque247 (H6)258, 93 octane (2.0T)
MPG18/2523/28
FuelRegularPremium
Curb Weight (lb)36473622
Forester is shorter? Then why is your chart showing that it is about 9 inches shorter???
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Forester is shorter? Then why is your chart showing that it is about 9 inches longer???
Read it again. OB: 189", Forester: 180"
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Read it again. OB: 189", Forester: 180"
I've read is again and Forester (on that chart) is 9 inches shorter....typo on in my response, I guess....ooops
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Based off the Impreza like the XV it will not have the quietness and feel of the OB. And I suspect the next gen OB will move farther away from the Forester
I don't know about that. Motortrend did a "quick drive" of the new XT and said Subaru has addressed alot of the current Forester weaknesses. Suppose well see.
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No 6 cylinder. That does it for me. Oddly tall. Also, subaru is a small company by car company standards and has to move slowly. Like someone else said, changes may be coming for the outback. Also, subaru doesn't seem to mind canabilizing sales between models. They just released another forrester competitor in the xv.
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Does the new Forester require premium or is it only recommended for optimum performance? If it can be run on regular - as a lot of cars can that only recommend, not require - then how much of a reduction in HP and torque would be acceptable? I had two VW Passats - both 4 cylinder turbos - in the past that recommended premium that I couldn't really tell the difference in performance or gas mileage when I ran it on regular so I only used regular for years and over 60,000 miles each with no ill effects.
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