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Old 02-17-2013, 08:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone found "the wire" used to disable TPMS.
On my 2012 Toyota Tacoma it is a blue wire that you tie 12 volts into and vola, problem permanently solved.
On my 2009 Jeep, the alarm value could be programmed from zero to whatever with a readily available handheld programmer.
It is illegal for dealers to sell a new car with this function disabled.
It is NOT illegal for consumers to mod this system.

I am in California. If you believe this is illegal, please quote the statute or vehicle code that I am violating.

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. If you believe this is illegal, please quote the statute or vehicle code that I am violating.

Thanks in advance.

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Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards; TPMS; Controls and Displays. Final Rule.
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http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/ruli...mpost2cir.html

Frankly no one cares if you disable TPMS.... until there is an accident.
If it is a fatal or major injury, expect your EDR to be uploaded. The TPMS non-op condition will tell all to investigators, attorneys and insurance companies.
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I am just curious - why disable them?
Also, not sure how this could be enforced by CHP, if you indeed disable those...
WOW - that's a long Final Rule...
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I am just curious - why disable them?
Also, not sure how this could be enforced by CHP, if you indeed disable those...
WOW - that's a long Final Rule...
Since there are no safety inspections in Ca, it's not enforced by the CHP.
Other states do have vehicle safety inspections and checking the operation of dash lights is part of the process.
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The ruling is only in regards to the manufacturer. Nowhere in these rulings are the final consumers mentioned. There is no standing statute that identifies a requirement for a non commercial vehicle to be so equipped.
Why would one want to disable TPMS. Airing down for offload adventures is one reason. Unwillingness to deal with a unneeded system is another.
One could simply use a switch to enable/disable the system or dash light. I am searching for the way to do this.
Need it for normal operation/inspection. = enable
Airing down = disable.
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The ruling is only in regards to the manufacturer. Nowhere in these rulings are the final consumers mentioned. There is no standing statute that identifies a requirement for a non commercial vehicle to be so equipped.
Why would one want to disable TPMS. Airing down for offload adventures is one reason. Unwillingness to deal with a unneeded system is another.
One could simply use a switch to enable/disable the system or dash light. I am searching for the way to do this.
Need it for normal operation/inspection. = enable
Airing down = disable


Please read the summary of both rulings.
You may want to read the rulings yourself. They cover more than the manufacturer. That's why the many major tire stores now refuse to install winter wheel/tire sets without TPMS in them, even if they previously being doing it for you.
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Please quote the reference to the final consumer.
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Please quote the reference to the final consumer. If you cannot give a direct word for word quote, your argument is meaningless.
I really do not mean to start a fight here. Assuming any rulings meaning is useless in public and foolish in court. A ruling does not constitute law in all the land.

In reference to my request:

I bet you if:
I found a way to "switch" the TPMS light on/off, there would be many takers.


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Where do you see the words "final consumer" in my post. I can still supply a link if you need it but if you read the rulings you should already know that it applies to more than the "manufacturer", which is in your post. That's all I was referencing. You can disconnect your air bags for all I care.
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The words final consumers refer to us, the end user. It was not a direct response to your post but to the words in the ruling. There is no reference stating that a individual (consumer) can not disable the system.

I will agree that other entities are mentioned. They are generally commercial in nature. Not referring to the consumer.

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When I got the OB (2011) TPMS was not available on the Canadian model...don't know it it is now. IMHO it is a great thing but a royal PIA especially when it comes to swapping tires and rims for the winter. Glad I don't have to deal with that. Plus...anyone should be able to use a tire guage.

If you wait for the TPMS to go off, then you are not checking your tire presure enough. I check mine once every two or three gas fills.
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