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Old 02-23-2013, 06:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm not a fan of the Fumoto valve on this car. The reason is that it's too exposed on the underside of the pan. Given the miserable roads in my area, it's not too hard to imagine the valve being neatly decapitated by some road debris. Not really sure that having it saves me time or mess.

I'm using statoseals instead of crush washers. Not only do they seal better, they last through several oil changes (I've had the same one on there through three changes).
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What is a statoseal?
Incidentally, another argument in favor of Fumoto is thread damage from removal and constant retorquing. Too much twist by an 18 yr old quick lube kid and you can damage the threads.
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Incidentally, another argument in favor of Fumoto is thread damage from removal and constant retorquing. QUOTE]

Yup. I have had to do repairs of one sort or another on 2 previous vehicles because the threads in the pan wore out. And I do all my own oil changes........I just keep cars for a really long time. (Both repairs became necessary at over 200k.)

If you don't use a drain valve, it is worth it to keep a second drain plug, and rotate them. The threads on the plug distort, and make the threads in the pan deteriorate even faster.

On mine, anyway, the plug was way over torqued, straight from the factory. Must have had at least 80 foot pounds on it.
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On mine, anyway, the plug was way over torqued, straight from the factory. Must have had at least 80 foot pounds on it.
OEM overtorquing on any fastener seems to be a common issue with Japanese branded vehicles.
Could be some conspiracy to frustrate the DIY'ers and surrender them to the dealer.
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Could be some conspiracy to frustrate the DIY'ers and surrender them to the dealer.
I think having the plug painted over at the factory contributes to the feeling of tightness.
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I think having the plug painted over at the factory contributes to the feeling of tightness.
Yeah, well, the paint doesn't compress the aluminium gasket until it is paperthin.
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I felt the same regarding road debris and added the primitive racing skid plate. Wife's forester has it too, and noticed it sits higher than the frame does so its unlikely to be struck by something b

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I'm not a fan of the Fumoto valve on this car. The reason is that it's too exposed on the underside of the pan. Given the miserable roads in my area, it's not too hard to imagine the valve being neatly decapitated by some road debris. Not really sure that having it saves me time or mess.

I'm using statoseals instead of crush washers. Not only do they seal better, they last through several oil changes (I've had the same one on there through three changes).
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Yeah, well, the paint doesn't compress the aluminium gasket until it is paperthin.
It's painted over after it's compressed.
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