Dealers and fumoto valves? - Subaru Outback

JimDod · 02-23-2013, 01:21 AM

Anyone have a dealer get upset because you installed a fumoto oil drain valve? Any warranty issues?

grossgary · 02-23-2013, 02:10 AM

No. If you're installing a valve it's because you're doing your own oil changes. If the engine locked up next week you'd install the original drain plug to make sure they don't get suspicious.

The only time this would be an issue is if there was engine oil starvation (and you didn't do the step in the last paragraph) and 36,000 miles oil starvation issues are extremely rare, so the chance of ever having an issue is really, really tiny. But if it did happen, that would be a risk.

A dealer is never going to say "oh you have an oil valve, we're not going to warranty your failed rear blinker lights". it doesn't make any sense on multiple levels.

If the engine runs low on oil that's not going to look good and you'd run the risk of having issues....but then back to paragraph #1.

A google search shows almost non-existent cases of oil starved engines in warranty periods or warranty voiding by dealers (not counting the turbo crowd LOL).

jogosub · 02-23-2013, 06:42 AM

JimDod:
The reason they may get upset is purely economical. They cannot charge for the replacement of the oil drain plug's crush washer (although many of them do in spite of the fact that none was replaced). Plus they can see, that you may be changing your oil yourself - thus loss of revenue. No warranty issue!

upflying · 02-23-2013, 10:14 AM

Another reason they could get upset is time. Oil drains slower though a valve and turn-over on the hoist could delay the next oil change.

AltaBrig · 02-23-2013, 10:46 AM

I have had my OB into Irvine Subaru half a dozen times for warranty issues, recalls, TSBs, and glass replaced after a smash and grab.

I have had the quick change valve in since change #1 at ~3k. Nary a word from the dealer, but they don't do my fluids. I can't imagine anyone going with a quick valve to make the dealer tech's job a bit easier and possibly a slower drain.

If it's an issue, take your car somewhere else.

Looby · 02-23-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AltaBrig

...but they don't do my fluids.

I deny them my essence - YouTube

scoobydoo2 · 02-23-2013, 02:19 PM

If I remember correctly, fumoto advertises it's valve as being okay'd under subaru warranty...listed as genuine parts by subaru.

FUMOTO ENGINEERING

AltaBrig · 02-23-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Looby

I deny them my essence - YouTube

Its the god@mned flouridation!

Kubrick's best.

JimDod · 02-23-2013, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobydoo2

If I remember correctly, fumoto advertises it's valve as being okay'd under subaru warranty...listed as genuine parts by subaru.

FUMOTO ENGINEERING

Well that is nice,

My dealer gave me two years of oil changes (I read that as three oil changes). I'm going to change the oil at 1000 miles just because that is what I do. I'll put the Fumoto on at that time and let the dealer to the other changes. This keeps other fingers off of my drain plug.

Actually if I could talk the dealer into giving me the oil and filter I would be happier, fat chance of that.

scoobydoo2 · 02-23-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JimDod

Well that is nice,

My dealer gave me two years of oil changes (I read that as three oil changes). I'm going to change the oil at 1000 miles just because that is what I do. I'll put the Fumoto on at that time and let the dealer to the other changes. This keeps other fingers off of my drain plug.

Actually if I could talk the dealer into giving me the oil and filter I would be happier, fat chance of that.

...just buy a lot of filters from subaruonlineparts.com, that is what I do.

02-23-2013, 01:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
JimDod Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: San Bernardino Mountains, SoCal Car: 2013 2.5i Premium M6, 19mm, Posts: 39 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dealers and fumoto valves? Anyone have a dealer get upset because you installed a fumoto oil drain valve? Any warranty issues? __________________ Premium Manual, 19MM sway

02-23-2013, 02:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
grossgary Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: WV Car: OBW H6 VDC, H6 OB Sed, XT6's Posts: 2,417 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No. If you're installing a valve it's because you're doing your own oil changes. If the engine locked up next week you'd install the original drain plug to make sure they don't get suspicious. The only time this would be an issue is if there was engine oil starvation (and you didn't do the step in the last paragraph) and 36,000 miles oil starvation issues are extremely rare, so the chance of ever having an issue is really, really tiny. But if it did happen, that would be a risk. A dealer is never going to say "oh you have an oil valve, we're not going to warranty your failed rear blinker lights". it doesn't make any sense on multiple levels. If the engine runs low on oil that's not going to look good and you'd run the risk of having issues....but then back to paragraph #1. A google search shows almost non-existent cases of oil starved engines in warranty periods or warranty voiding by dealers (not counting the turbo crowd LOL). __________________ H6 VDC OBW, H6 OB Sedan, 99 SUS, XT6's

02-23-2013, 10:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
upflying Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Reno, NV (Ca transplant) Posts: 1,643 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Another reason they could get upset is time. Oil drains slower though a valve and turn-over on the hoist could delay the next oil change. __________________ '12 Outback Limited 2.5i, Cypress Green Pearl, sunroof, illumination package #2, rear bumper guard, puddle lights, mudflaps, no nav '10 Nissan Frontier SE Crew Cab 4X2 long bed '98 BMW R1100RT-P '86 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS, restored, original, stock daily driver, '09 Harley Davidson FLHP

02-23-2013, 10:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
AltaBrig Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Southern California Car: 2011 Subie 3.6R Limited 2013 Cmax e=nergi PHEV Posts: 727 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have had my OB into Irvine Subaru half a dozen times for warranty issues, recalls, TSBs, and glass replaced after a smash and grab. I have had the quick change valve in since change #1 at ~3k. Nary a word from the dealer, but they don't do my fluids. I can't imagine anyone going with a quick valve to make the dealer tech's job a bit easier and possibly a slower drain. If it's an issue, take your car somewhere else. __________________ 2011 3.6R Limited Curt 2" Hitch, Garmin ecoRoute HD OBDII, Weathertechs, Fumoto Valve, 19mm RSB I-pod controller, Exhaust Tips, RSBP, F&RCBM *2013 Cmax* e=nergi phev**

02-23-2013, 02:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
scoobydoo2 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canada...the great white north Car: 3rd Subaru. 2011 Ouback Limited with NAV Posts: 2,554 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If I remember correctly, fumoto advertises it's valve as being okay'd under subaru warranty...listed as genuine parts by subaru. FUMOTO ENGINEERING __________________ The human soul, in some ways like good helium, expands to whatever environment it has. Or conversely sinks to whatever ditch it is offered. That's where the real battles are waged-and waged continually. David Adams Richards ZeeMaps - Subaru Outback.Org Owner Location: Show us where you are.

02-23-2013, 06:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
jogosub Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Rolling Hills/PV-CA displaced in NW Florida. Car: 13 Outback 2.5i Limited/DDF-PZEV, Crystal Black Silica with Option Pkg 23 Posts: 1,596 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	JimDod: The reason they may get upset is purely economical. They cannot charge for the replacement of the oil drain plug's crush washer (although many of them do in spite of the fact that none was replaced). Plus they can see, that you may be changing your oil yourself - thus loss of revenue. No warranty issue!

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