I want a remote start; any easy install inexpensive ones that works with 2nd gen?

[FORANE]

Hello

Figured I would ask the well educated folks here. I have decided a remote start would be a highly appreciated Christmas gift for my fiance.

Is there a easy to install remote start for our 2nd gen cars? Hers is a 2001.
I don't need a ton of features. I don't need an alarm. Would like to just be able to use the remote she currently has for lock / unlock.

Do these "sub2 T harness" work:
http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden...9/product.html

What do you all say?

[Slobo7x]

hey,
Excellent gift idea! I purchsed one for my wife back in 2010 and installed it on her 2004 Ford escape. I also installed another one on 2004 Audi S4 and that was a PITA due to imobilizer system built in the car.

Luckily you have a 2001 subaru, so it does not have a sophisticated key/cluster/ECU technology built in.

I would look at Audiovox Prestige remote start systems, they work well and are pretty basic and cheap.
Most of the wires that you will need will be at the ignition cylinder. Make sure you run both of your Positive 12V constants from the Battery and not anywhere else, as it won't be enough to energize the relays that come with it.

The RPM wire is crucial as it's used for sensing tach rate, and thereby enabling the remote start. You can use any of the common fuel injector wires for it.

You'll need a parking light wire, which should also at the steering wheel.

If you do a little more research on 2001 subaru outback wiring you can get a good plan of action for the remote start, and can knock it out in one day!

Good luck!

[Saint J VT]

Myself?
I would never have one of those installed.
I don't think it is a good idea to be cutting into and splicing into Factory, OEM harness wiring where any improper connection could result in a FAIL TO START situation! If it does cause a FTS, who knows when and who knows how many miles down the road?

No doubt, it would happen when you are just getting ready to leave for the once-in-a-lifetime four-week vacation and must be at the airport (or ship's dock) by such-and-such a time and now the car won't start!

Unless the remote starter is COMPLETELY Subaru and unless it is installed in strict accordance with factory shop manual specifications, that remote starter DEFINITELY would not be sold to me or my wife, or to my mechanic, for that matter!

I hope it gets installed without a glitch and I hope you never ever have any problems as a result of this thing!

I live where it gets as cold as 50 below zero (F), which is the coldest I have ever seen it here in Vermont's Northeast kingdom. It's not too difficult to throw some clothes on and run out and start the car. It kind of wakes me up.

[FORANE]

Originally Posted by Saint J VT

Myself?
I would never have one of those installed.
I don't think it is a good idea to be cutting into and splicing into Factory, OEM harness wiring where any improper connection could result in a FAIL TO START situation! If it does cause a FTS, who knows when and who knows how many miles down the road?

No doubt, it would happen when you are just getting ready to leave for the once-in-a-lifetime four-week vacation and must be at the airport (or ship's dock) by such-and-such a time and now the car won't start!

Unless the remote starter is COMPLETELY Subaru and unless it is installed in strict accordance with factory shop manual specifications, that remote starter DEFINITELY would not be sold to me or my wife, or to my mechanic, for that matter!

I hope it gets installed without a glitch and I hope you never ever have any problems as a result of this thing!

I live where it gets as cold as 50 below zero (F), which is the coldest I have ever seen it here in Vermont's Northeast kingdom. It's not too difficult to throw some clothes on and run out and start the car. It kind of wakes me up.

He He
Well I know the plane will not leave without me. I know this because I have the keys to the plane in my right front pants pocket and I am the pilot. Kind of spoiled in that regard. Oh, and my carry on policy...it's very liberal. No shoe removal here. Firearm? no problem. Sorry, just couldn't resist that one.
Seriously, I appreciate the thought. I have read about some who have had trouble with these devices. Would not want that of course but she has hinted it would be nice to have one of these. Perhaps if we get burned once we will feel differently. To each his own. I guess I am just not as cautious as you appear.
One local shop in my area sells and installs Avital remote starters. Does anyone have any experience with those?

[1 Lucky Texan]

If I had as important an event to drive to as that, I'd call a cab or rent a car instead of taking a 12-year-old one.

[OBWagon Kenobi]

Avital is a good brand, formerly clifford. Make sure whoever installs it solders all connections, most problems arise from bad connections. If you have it installed at a shop, find one with MECP certified techs, ask to see there certs and check the dates.

[rycomm]

There are only a few manufacturers of modern Remote Start systems.
The rest have all been bought and merged.

Directed Electronics is most likely the largest of them.
They own Viper, Avital, Clifford, Ungo, Sidewinder, AutoStart, Hornet, and several others. They are all pretty much the same, except the logos and colors on the remotes.

Audiovox is next major manufacturer. They make Audiovox, Prestige, Code Alarm, Pursuit, and maybe a few others.

Crimestopper is a fairly large supplier. Their software and hardware is good, but sometimes the remotes don't seem to hold up.

I think JBS, bulldog, carbine ect are very similar, but are at the lower end of spektrum. My opinion only, others may love them.

As far as installing in a 2nd Gen OB, thats about one of the most straight forward installations around, no transponder, everything is prety easy to find and test. Check www.the12volt.com for free databases and other helpful tips.

I've been installing mobile electronics, mostly full time, for nearly 20yrs. Very rarely do these systems interfere with drivability if they fail. Often they get blamed for other things that fail, or blown fuses. I'm not saying they are 100% perfect. They are electronics, and can fail, but usually it is improper operation or a faulty connection.

If you need some hardware, I have most of the above brands availabe. Mostly I use Code Alarm, but not always.

Also, Subarus OEM sytem is supplied by CodeAlarm, as is (was anyway) Ford and Chryslers. GMs used to be from Directed, but now it is built into the ECU / BCM.

Ryan

My airport has a very similar policy as Foranes.

[FORANE]

Originally Posted by rycomm

There are only a few manufacturers of modern Remote Start systems.
The rest have all been bought and merged.

Directed Electronics is most likely the largest of them.
They own Viper, Avital, Clifford, Ungo, Sidewinder, AutoStart, Hornet, and several others. They are all pretty much the same, except the logos and colors on the remotes.

Audiovox is next major manufacturer. They make Audiovox, Prestige, Code Alarm, Pursuit, and maybe a few others.

Crimestopper is a fairly large supplier. Their software and hardware is good, but sometimes the remotes don't seem to hold up.

I think JBS, bulldog, carbine ect are very similar, but are at the lower end of spektrum. My opinion only, others may love them.

As far as installing in a 2nd Gen OB, thats about one of the most straight forward installations around, no transponder, everything is prety easy to find and test. Check www.the12volt.com for free databases and other helpful tips.

I've been installing mobile electronics, mostly full time, for nearly 20yrs. Very rarely do these systems interfere with drivability if they fail. Often they get blamed for other things that fail, or blown fuses. I'm not saying they are 100% perfect. They are electronics, and can fail, but usually it is improper operation or a faulty connection.

If you need some hardware, I have most of the above brands availabe. Mostly I use Code Alarm, but not always.

Also, Subarus OEM sytem is supplied by CodeAlarm, as is (was anyway) Ford and Chryslers. GMs used to be from Directed, but now it is built into the ECU / BCM.

Ryan

My airport has a very similar policy as Foranes.

Thanks for the post.

That makes you and Slobo7x advocates for the Audiovox company's products. I have looked at the wiring diagrams for a couple other manufacturers and have not convinced myself I am up to the task. I have wired in stereos, fog lights, additional 12 volt power adapters, etc, even a radio in my airplane, and while my technique has improved I still need to keep my day job if you follow...

[Saint J VT]

Yes, I agree, I am cautious, sometimes so much so that - when push comes to shove - what I want sometimes never transpires to completion, or even starting <sic>, for that matter!

[OBWagon Kenobi]

I just purchased an autopage rs370 remote start for one of my other vehicles, have had good luck with them in the past.. will update once I install it. They are a little tricky on install but I am a MECP certified installer so it should only take me 3 hours.