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Old 11-18-2012, 03:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I just called a seller about a 2005 Outback with 95k. He said the check engine light went on, and the dealer told him he needs a new head. I told him to get a 2nd opinion, but when exactly do these cars start showing head gasket problems? My friend anecdotally says it goes at 200k. Now, I am reading about people redoing head gaskets here before 100k?? What's the median miles at failure?
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Look up the head gasket log only thread. Folks have been logging stats there.

My last car saw them go at about 120k.
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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What's the JDM engine? An upgrade? I saw an ad for a car with a replaced JDM engine, and I dismissed it as some blown engine, etc. Didn't want to go there. Aftermarket, etc.
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The cars are taken off the road by 50k miles. All the parts are recycled and shipped to other parts of the world and sold.

I put the JDM engine in for the low mileage and the OE engine started making a lifter noise right in the midst of the tuning.
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Look up the head gasket log only thread. Folks have been logging stats there. My last car saw them go at about 120k.
Here it is: HG failure log (NO DISCUSSION, Log ONLY)

Looks like 200k is an inflated expectation. Maybe I just got lucky.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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So, I found a "new" 2001 Outback Wagon with only 65k miles for $5500.
Original owner, and very clean inside and out.
Clutch felt tight, and the only work major has been water pump and 4 new tires.


I plan to keep this as long as I can.
So, I will probably invest some money into it:
1) new brake pads/rotors all around.
2) rest of cooling system (thermostat, radiator, 2 hoses)
3) battery, wipers, air filter
4) Fan belt
5) Change all fluids: oil, steering, gearbox, rear diff, coolant

Anything else you'd do?
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Is this a 4cyl or 6cyl, if its a 4cyl do you know if anything else was changed behind the timing cover when the waterpump was done? If not you should do the timing belt, idlers, tensioner, cam&crank seals, even though the car has low miles the time interval for the timing belt change is past due( I think 8-9 years).

Anyway make sure the headgaskets are ok (especially if this is a 2.5L 4cyl) inspect the bottom of the engine for leaks.. oh and cv boots are also a common thing to go especially the passengers front inner due to the catalytic converter being under it.
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I don't remember if it's 4 or 6cyl.

Head gasket. Car seemed to run great, and I didn't smell coolant or see any pooling in the common spot.

Yes, I will do the timing belt. I forgot to put that in my list.

I will check the Idlers and tensioners when the belt is off. They often last a lot longer than 10 years or 60k.

Cam and crank seals? Is this typical service? Is this a big job?
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You said the clutch feels good = 4 cylinder. The H6 never came with a stick.

Head gaskets can leak oil external, not just coolant.
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Ok, here is my updated list:

1) new brake pads/rotors all around.
2) rest of cooling system (thermostat, radiator, 2 hoses)
3) battery, wipers, air filter
4) Fan belt, idlers, tensioner.
5) Change all fluids: oil, steering, gearbox, rear diff, coolant
6) New CV boots. (Passenger Front inner)
7) New timing belt.
8) Cam & crank seal

Anything else you'd do?

Which CV boots should I have done?
It sounds like there are 8 ?

Passenger front inner
Passenger front outer
Driver's front inner
Driver's front outer
(And then 4 more for the rear)
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2: OEM tstat only, trust me.
6: CV only if the boot is split and flinging grease. It is always better to reboot unless the axle is damaged. This is a Subaru only part due to fit quality issues with aftermarket parts.
Typically the passenger front splits, it's right over exhaust piping.
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