want to do a few "modifications" 2000 wagon standard

[Euchre]

For your intake ideas, look at this thread:
'02 Outback wagon intake mod
A 'CAI' that just puts a pod on the end of a pretty looking pipe in your engine bay isn't 'cold air' at all.

[AWDFTW]

Chips don't work.

The factory intake is a CAI, not much to be gained there. The above mentioned thread makes a bit more "growl" but the vehicle is already getting more air that it needs in stock form.

The rotors from a 2002-04 Outback are slightly larger and could be a simple upgrade.

[1 Lucky Texan]

Originally Posted by AWDFTW

The rotors from a 2002-04 Outback are slightly larger and could be a simple upgrade.

good opportunity to flush the fluid, replace the old brake hoses, refresh the parking brake shoes too.

[LightGesture]

Would I just replace the rotors and get the same brake pads (if I need new pads)?

So, I'm still misunderstanding the intake situation, the stock one is fine/good enough? It isn't worth anything hp/efficiency wise?

What about swaybars, any recomendations? Id probablywant my car lowered a litttle, and great suspension before that, wouldn't I? Or around the same timing? I want ti upgrade those around the summer time...
I'm used to my old adjustable Eibachs, these ones feel so bouncy. Lol (but they're how they should be)-aok

--thanks for the tips on saving me $$$ from the chip idea. And for the reference to have my car tuned
--some day when I have an garage, ill take the tar out <P for weight..

[1 Lucky Texan]

some people have swapped in legacy springs and struts. A heavier rear sway bay could be done now and 'likely' would still bolt in after a suspensions swap. Just getting some new KYB struts would probably be a huge improvement though.

you can search here for just about any system/component of your car and fine good info.

pretty sure a brake swap will mean getting the caliper brackets/larger rotors/calipers/ and, from then on, pads for an 03 w'ever. basically, your brakes will be the same as a later model. there's a 'slight' possibility you will need bigger rims to clear the calipers but, someone with more experience can comment on that.

[susiemk]

Originally Posted by 1 Lucky Texan

I have read a huge number of reviews at nasioc and thought I would try them so, I really only know they are a little better than stock on my WRX. I had planned on doing more track events than time and money have allowed so, I don't get remotely close to the high mot or other advantages they have in daily driving. they dust a little more than stock too. But, they have no other downside I can detect and are affordable. I rarely hear any noise, their cold bite (at least low-mid 20s, about as cold as it gets here) is the same as at 100 degrees. while the initial bite is good, maybe better than stock (which I think were akebono) they also still modulate well. never noticed a problem with fade at 2 HDPEs and one autoX. good value, but, if you don't drive the car like you stole it or visit the track, some name brand ceramics should be as good and maybe dust less.From reading, I think they may be slightly better choice than Hawk, higher mot and maybe cheaper. Of course, if money is no object, get ferodo ds2500 or w'ever. I think most people wanting 'upgraded' street pads would be happy with them. Spend the savings in money on stickier tires!

Since the rear brakes only get about 30% of the braking force, you may not notice any change in performance.

hawk, ebc, ferodo, etc - plenty of folks make good pads. I have bought pads from KNS brakes and from RockAuto.


My wife has the Centric PosiQuiet Ceramics on her outback, they are a little better than the OEM I think, and MUCH better than some Wagners they replaced. They are also lasting a LONG time given her stop-n-go driving.


the review thread for the ST SF pads is at; Quick Review: StopTech Street Performance Brake Pads - NASIOC

Good info - Thanks!

[susiemk]

Originally Posted by 1 Lucky Texan

some people have swapped in legacy springs and struts. A heavier rear sway bay could be done now and 'likely' would still bolt in after a suspensions swap. Just getting some new KYB struts would probably be a huge improvement though.

you can search here for just about any system/component of your car and fine good info.

pretty sure a brake swap will mean getting the caliper brackets/larger rotors/calipers/ and, from then on, pads for an 03 w'ever. basically, your brakes will be the same as a later model. there's a 'slight' possibility you will need bigger rims to clear the calipers but, someone with more experience can comment on that.

The '02 WRX uses the same front & rear brake pads as my '03 Legacy L-SE so upgrades on either car (front 11.4" WRX rotors on a Legacy (10.7'ish") or 11.3" Rear Legacy rotors on a WRX (10.7'ish")) only require caliper brackets & rotors (assuming your pads & fluid are fresh/good quality).

[Euchre]

Originally Posted by LightGesture

So, I'm still misunderstanding the intake situation, the stock one is fine/good enough? It isn't worth anything hp/efficiency wise?

Any gains in power and efficiency are fairly negligible. The only significant difference I've seen is on long duration loads - like going over a steep grade. Its certainly not about getting a noticeable increase in launch power or initial acceleration, but it does sound nice and aggressive when you get on it. The stock air feed from the front does as much 'cold air' as you'll need. The switch to a fender based feed of air might have a few benefits depending on the conditions you'll be driving in, but for most people its not a big deal. The mod is mostly a nice cheap, fun one to do. I like my car to 'talk' to me, so that's why I did mine. (Next will be exhaust, to let it 'talk' a little more.)

[jeb532]

$140 on Ebay...and worth 10 hp in the mid range with no other changes. 10 hp is a 20% improvement right where you really need it!

This is because the stock y-pipe is a really poor design.

[cardoc]

Originally Posted by jeb532

$140 on Ebay...and worth 10 hp in the mid range with no other changes. 10 hp is a 20% improvement right where you really need it!

This is because the stock y-pipe is a really poor design.

Dito. An engine needs to breathe. The stock pipes cause restriction. Kinda like running a marathon with chest congestion.