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Subaru response to navigation software--"use your phone"

I went to the International Car show this past weekend and a rep from Subaru says he tells everyone to use their cell phone for navigation (Waze, Google, ect). I got the latest version (free) about 2 weeks ago and sales person at the local dealership said "its better, more colorful, more intuitive." After I spent about 10 minutes playing with it and saw nothing really changed, I walked back in and talk to the guy and asked him to show me the changes and his response "I havent seen it or read anything...just what I heard". My opinion after the new release, it still is behind the very basics of GPS technology. From what Im hearing first hand and reading, its a big black eye for Subaru in customer satisfaction. Sad when a free application is light years ahead of Subaru---its only software people.


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I honestly agree and wonder why car manufacturers include their own navigational software. Google Maps is going to be better than anything else, anyways.

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The Subaru navigation system is way better than other OEM systems I have used in the past. I'm not a fan of OEM-installed systems (I would not have bought it but I wanted the memory seats, so it came as part of the SAP options package) because of the cost of updating them, not to mention they lag state-of-the art stand-alone systems.

I told my wife when she wanted an OEM system several years back that I would much rather have a mid-level stand-alone system that has free lifetime map and traffic updates. She now agrees with my sentiments.

That said, I'm pretty happy with how the Subaru system functions.

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I honestly agree and wonder why car manufacturers include their own navigational software. Google Maps is going to be better than anything else, anyways.
Actually they don't. It's all contracted out to some of the well known GPS companies. Most companies like Garmin and Tom Tom use mapping data from two companies (Navteq and TeleAtlas). Then they write their own user interfaces for those maps. When an auto OEM comes along wanting built in nav, they tweak their user interface to be what the car company wants. If you watch closely on boot up you can see the copyrights for both the maps and interface on many systems. Same for the AM head unit companies. I seriously doubt any of them write the core for the user interface but get the code from the GPS ODM and then tweak it to work in their headunit.

We know Fujitsu uses the iGo interface but I don't know what maps they use. It appears to me that lower cost units tend to us TeleAtlas and higher end use Navteq but I don't know if that is really true. Either way, no auto company does their own system. I prefer the Garimin interface with Navteq maps on Garmin units but less so on auto Nav units or AM head units.
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I believe its Kenwood that is behind the software in Subaru--at least my 2013 Outback.

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I honestly agree and wonder why car manufacturers include their own navigational software. Google Maps is going to be better than anything else, anyways.
Same here heck CNET wrote that the built in NAV was a thing of the past 4yrs ago outdated not user friendly or integrated with up to date info like the smart phone etc.
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Same here heck CNET wrote that the built in NAV was a thing of the past 4yrs ago outdated not user friendly or integrated with up to date info like the smart phone etc.
But try telling that to someone that is tired of that lump on the dash. Lol. I would love it if we could load whatever GPS software we wanted into the headunit but that will never happen. I like the integrated look and not having to fumble with a phone or tablet. I don't think we will see unlocked Android head units anytime soon.
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We know Fujitsu uses the iGo interface but I don't know what maps they use.
The iGo software in Fujitsu Ten HU in Subarus uses Navteq maps.
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I would totally be behind having an Android powered headunit in my vehicle. Have everything all in once place and more convenient to use in the car. Google Maps, music, Spotify, Pandora... hands free calling, voice texting, Google Now... would be awesome if I could use that in my car.

Take it even one step further and integrate Torque Pro into the headunit and wire it directly into the PCM for running engine diagnostics and providing live data... I would be in heaven.

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Since everyone is moving to smartphones now anyway, I'd rather OEMs drop built in nav altogether and offer more mobile app connectivity. Subaru offers this to an extremely limited degree with Aha Radio and Pandora, but other OEMs offer far more options where the in-dash screen becomes an extension of the driver's smartphone, and essentially functions as an external monitor for the smartphone.

Pioneer offers this in aftermarket form in their AppRadio series, which had a rocky first launch, but seems to have matured nicely several updates later.

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