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Old 06-08-2012, 06:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Subaru Australia managing director Nick Senior said, “The CVT transmissions in our petrol cars are a huge hit, typified by new XV and Impreza, so we can only see good things for Outback auto diesel”.
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The 2013 Subaru Outback will become the first diesel-powered model in Subaru Australia’s history to come with the option of an automatic transmission.

Subaru has confirmed the upcoming Outback 2.0 Diesel will be offered with the Japanese brand’s Lineartronic Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT), heeding calls from customers for a self-shifting gearbox, particularly in rural and regional areas.

It is expected to go on sale in the first quarter of 2013 with a price premium over the six-speed manual variants, which are currently priced from $36,490 for the Outback 2.0D and $40,990 for the 2.0D Premium.
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You're about to get a bunch of replies to the effect of "emissions requirements are higher", etc.

Which is BS. Mercedes and VW have been importing diesel cars since I was a kid. Non-stop.

You'll also hear that people won't buy them because the higher efficiency is offset by the higher cost. But on that basis it makes no sense to buy a hybrid either.

The Ford Fiesta diesel sold in Europe gets 65 mpg and hauls a**. Sad that we don't get it here because I'd own one.

Personally I don't have much faith in the Subaru diesel. If you start with an already incontinent boxer engine and run it at 22:1 compression it's not going to be particularly "dry". If they came up with an inline engine they could pull it off if they wanted to.
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Why can we not get this in the US?
Because Mother Soobie hates us for our exceptionlism?

...just a guess,

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You'll also hear that people won't buy them because the higher efficiency is offset by the higher cost.
Also BS. In Germany, the 2.5i and 2.0D have exactly the same MSRP
for the same trim level (both with the 6MT tranny, model year 2012).

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Also BS. In Germany, the 2.5i and 2.0D have exactly the same MSRP
for the same trim level (both with the 6MT tranny, model year 2012).

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Their price tag over there is quite different than here in the States which case MSRP is high enough not to command a different price. LOL - Not to mention they sell so few cars over there they probably sell more Subarus in Texas than they do in Germany
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Nice to see that they have confidence in the CVT to strap the diesel to it though!
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Why can we not get this in the US?
Our government wants us to buy hybrids and EV's not politically incorrect diesels..
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If they offered it here, my next car would be an Outback diesel. I like it (or at least the concept, not having driven one) but not enough to trade in the current car for.

America seems to be anti-diesel, and that's a shame.
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Nice to see that they have confidence in the CVT to strap the diesel to it though!
Almost enough confidence to actually build one and offer it for sale?

...hard to outperform vaporware,

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Welp... this news could put a nail in the coffin for diesels in the lawsuit-happy USA. With the WHO now saying that diesel exhaust definitely causes cancer, I'm guessing that the tobacco lawyers are popping champagne corks tonight.
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