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All I can tell from the video is the audi had better tires than the subaru.

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I would say, how much does audi cost vs subaru cost. Both are getting thru, but the Audi makes it look like childs toy vs the Japan Subaru I dunno stirring the pot is all i am doing.


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There is no denying Audi makes a good AWD system, but I doubt many in the market for a Subaru will cross shop an Audi...different vehicle classes and price points.

As far as the videos go, they are hard to actually tell any concrete data from. Without equipping cars as closely as possible (similar trim levels and mechanics, same tires, etc) most car comparison videos are apples to pears at best.

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i think it may come to chains vs all seasons lol.

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Looks like they all had fun playing in the snow!

As AWDFTW says above, it's worthless as an objective test, but fun all the same.

Somewhere in my archives I have a video of a kid on a skateboard winning a traction contest against a volkswagen.
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Post close-up pics of tires of each car in that video. Some of these "stunt or commercials" videos are comparing apples with oranges! Wasn't there one automaker that made some claims on their commercials only to find out that it was under "controlled" situation and the claim was invalid? They had to pull that add off the air! Back in Sweden, on Saab test track way up North, as well as frozen lakes up there, we could beat all claims of AWD superiority with simple front wheel drive with snow tires with studs!
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I have an AWD Audi and the Subaru Outback. Trying to compare them is really like comparing apples to oranges. The comparable Audi (concerning interior room) would be an A6, and this baby costs double or more than the Outback, Both of my AWD vehicles get their job well done and perform very well in their class.

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As far as traction, I think a SAAB with skinny winter tires with studs and manual transmission could match any AWD out there!
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Any comparison test done outdoors is bogus. You need a controlled environment like a hockey rink that is temperature controlled and dead flat. And all the components must be identical in all respects, like tire tread condition.

Dunlop vs Nokian, outdoors. Unknown tire conditions. Unknown surface conditions. Pure unadulterated BS.

TireRack tests indoors, and I tend to believe their traction results.

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