OutBack vs V70

[jp1203]

Originally Posted by Blanco

Yet being this will become the wife's main car I'd like a safe car & the Volvo's do have a great rep for being safe in a accident.

So do Subarus...

[SE95]

Originally Posted by Blanco

Why is that?
What did they change that allows the others to be a better choice?

Actually I'd always been told that it is a bad idea to tow ANY AWD/4WD vehicle.

[rasterman]

Originally Posted by SE95

Actually I'd always been told that it is a bad idea to tow ANY AWD/4WD vehicle.

Some will tolerate it just fine. It all comes down to whether the transmission will self-lubricate. A "splash" or self-lubricated driveline will wear a small amount when towed with all four wheels down, but less than when driven under power. Nothing to worry about, people do this all the time.

Many new cars, especially those with automatic transmissions, require pressurized lubrication at various points in the driveline. Pressure is normally provided by the engine driving the torque converter. With the engine off, the transmission is not being lubricated and substantial wear will occur quickly if the car is towed with all four wheels down.

I know the 1st & 2nd generation outbacks with MTs were self-lubricating. I haven't looked it up for the later cars. I believe all Subarus with automatics of all types are pressure-lubricated and thus cannot be dinghy-towed.

[jogosub]

European (from the Continent) cars (regardless of the brand) are like women; it you take care of them right, they will last long long time.... LOL
Exception: U.K. cars - remember the saying that Lucas invented the darkness.... so, if you have anything in your car made by Lucas, get rid of it!

[Blanco]

Originally Posted by jp1203

So do Subarus...

I've never heard that?
Yet we all know thats Volvo's claim to fame.
I think even after Princess Diana died in that Mercedes, Volvo got in trouble for not waiting long enough & claiming if she was in a Volvo, she would still been alive...?

[Blanco]

Originally Posted by SE95

Actually I'd always been told that it is a bad idea to tow ANY AWD/4WD vehicle.

Well actually 4x4 trucks have transfer cases that could be placed in the neutral position & that should solve that & they do have drive shaft disconnect kits available that allows us to keep the drivetrain from spinning at all when towing.

[upflying]

As I mentioned earlier, the 6 speed 4th gen OB can be flat towed. Negative towing with CVT or the 3.6 automatic. There is no driver controlled transfer case in the Outback.

[upflying]

Originally Posted by jogosub

European (from the Continent) cars (regardless of the brand) are like women; it you take care of them right, they will last long long time.... LOL
Exception: U.K. cars - remember the saying that Lucas invented the darkness.... so, if you have anything in your car made by Lucas, get rid of it!

Lucas Electrics actually has a part number for wiring smoke.

[jp1203]

Originally Posted by Blanco

I've never heard that?
Yet we all know thats Volvo's claim to fame.
I think even after Princess Diana died in that Mercedes, Volvo got in trouble for not waiting long enough & claiming if she was in a Volvo, she would still been alive...?

Subaru Safety summary of crash test results, child seats, airbags, FAQ, links and more

Worth looking at...some pretty good results there. I have a co-worker whose daughter went off the road and rolling down a bank into a brook in their 2003 Outback and she barely had a scratch. Apparently not unlike this situation ( http://www.cars101.com/subaru/subaru...1_outback2.JPG )

Also this: Dear Subaru | Subaru Owner Stories, Photos & Video Though it's Subaru's advertising, per se, they're all legitimate photos and stories. Clicking "safety" filters them a little bit to show mostly accident stories.

...and this: New 2013 Completely totaled by Subie salesperson!

Fortunately, I've never been in any accident with my Outback, but I can tell you it feels like a tank in comparison to many other vehicles. I know there's plenty of members here who have stories.

[jogosub]

upflying - that is hillarious! Where did you dig that one up from? Is that jar sitting on Jaguar's hood?