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Old 12-31-2012, 04:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Fortunately, I've never been in any accident with my Outback, but I can tell you it feels like a tank in comparison to many other vehicles. I know there's plenty of members here who have stories.
I'll check out the links, thanks.

But last thing I want is to be driving something that feels like a tank!?!?!
I was hoping for nimble sporty feeling to be honest...
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I'll check out the links, thanks.

But last thing I want is to be driving something that feels like a tank!?!?!
I was hoping for nimble sporty feeling to be honest...
Hmm, mine is over 3700 lbs and feels pretty substantial. Certainly not all, but many vehicles definitely feel like tin cans in comparison. It isn't exactly that I'd call "nimble," either.
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Old 12-31-2012, 04:54 PM   #23 (permalink)
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i like both the V70 and XC 70. I've never owned one, but after researching the topic say.....5 times, i cannot afford to pull the trigger. The only thing holding me back is the reliability and resale value....which in essence translates to $$$. Oh and volvo is owned by a Chinese company and i don't know how it affects quality.
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Volvos are fine automobiles; Chinese owners have very little effect on quality up there in Gothenburg. All they suplly is money...and they want some decent returns on their investments. Saab up in Trolhattan tried the same but they could not get the right financing or backers after GM drained them well....
I had several of both but, looking back, I would not buy Volvo anymore. Many of my friends have Volvos in Europe and, unlike BMW, Audi or Mercedes, those cars are not being stolen that often over there and therefore, people like that brand for that reason. They are as safe (if not even safer) as Subarus.
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Chinese owners have very little effect on quality up there in Gothenburg. All they suplly is money...and they want some decent returns on their investments.
I'm sure you're correct to a degree.
Being in corporate finance, can't ignore the man who pays the piper though.
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upflying - that is hillarious! Where did you dig that one up from? Is that jar sitting on Jaguar's hood?
That photo has been sitting my Photobucket for years, forgot where I found it. It does look like an XKE hood.
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Hmm, mine is over 3700 lbs and feels pretty substantial.
Wow I had no idea they were that heavy.
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European (from the Continent) cars (regardless of the brand) are like women; it you take care of them right, they will last long long time.... LOL
Exception: U.K. cars - remember the saying that Lucas invented the darkness.... so, if you have anything in your car made by Lucas, get rid of it!
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I'll check out the links, thanks.

But last thing I want is to be driving something that feels like a tank!?!?!
I was hoping for nimble sporty feeling to be honest...
No need to take the comments so literally. It's also been said by some that the Outback drives "like a sports sedan". But if a potential buyer is looking for safety it can also easily be said that the Outback "drives like a tank". It's difficult to be objective about these things, and of course the above comments are completely relative.

See 5:18 in this Outback vs XC70 video.
"The Outback felt lighter, more responsive, and was more enjoyable to drive."
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:06 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Wow I had no idea they were that heavy.
A little less than 3700# (unloaded)

2013 curb weights

2.5 base
manual 3423 lbs
CVT 3459 lbs

2.5 Premium
manual 3427 lbs
CVT 3503 lbs

2.5 Limited
CVT 3538 lbs

3.6 Premium
3613 lbs

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3647 lbs

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