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Old 12-30-2012, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been paying very close attention lately & notice in areas where it snows, that I see 10X's the amount of Outbacks to Volvos wagons & am wondering is it just because the Subies are much cheaper to own or???

& then the next question is about mounting a tow bar on the front to tow behind my camper while traveling on trips..

Are OutBacks easy to mount a tow bar onto vs an Volvo?
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I've been paying very close attention lately & notice in areas where it snows, that I see 10X's the amount of Outbacks to Volvos wagons & am wondering is it just because the Subies are much cheaper to own or???

& then the next question is about mounting a tow bar on the front to tow behind my camper while traveling on trips..

Are OutBacks easy to mount a tow bar onto vs an Volvo?
I'd say the XC70 is the competitor, actually...the V70 is to the XC70 what the Legacy Wagon is to the Outback (sort of, anyway...both Subarus have AWD standard).

I think it comes down to cost. Same reason you don't see as many Audi Allroads as Subarus.

I've always sort of liked XC70s, but as far as what you get for your money, I think the Outback wins out.
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Volvo parts and maintenance is expensive.
Are you planning to tow the OB with all four wheels on the ground? If so, 6 speed is the only option.
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If you plan to lease a new car and then get rid of it, you should consider the Volvo XC-70, but any European car will be a killer for parts and service after the warranty period is up. I've never owned a Volvo but I like the engineering. I just wish the interiors were not so boringly bland.



Subarus are cheaper initially; and in the long run they are trouble free and easier to service and repair. Plus you get AWD as standard, you don't have to buy an expensive engine upgrade. This is probably the main reason you see so many in snow country.

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Volvo parts and maintenance is expensive.
Are you planning to tow the OB with all four wheels on the ground? If so, 6 speed is the only option.
Yes as far as towing the OB it would be flat towing, I'd only be trailer towing the rigs I plan to beat up to the point of possible breakage.

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If you plan to lease a new car and then get rid of it, you should consider the Volvo XC-70, but any European car will be a killer for parts and service after the warranty period is up.
The more I think about it I plan to buy used & maybe one from CarMax that comes with a warranty?
Pay a 80% down to keep the payment super low & help build the wife's credit back up?
But they don't sell older than 10 years & I prefer the older models yet would like some warranty to come with it as well.

I think CarMax does have that?
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I'm not in the finance business but I am guessing most lenders would not waste their time financing a vehicle with an 80% down payment.
The remaining 20% would be lost to depreciation.
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I'm not in the finance business but I am guessing most lenders would not waste their time financing a vehicle with an 80% down payment.
The remaining 20% would be lost to depreciation.
Well, whatever, the point is I dont want a big bill & would finance only in attempts to rebuild her credit, otherwise I'll just buy from a private party & be done with it.
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Cost, that's the difference.

If you are concerned about snow traction here's the order of importance:
1. studded snow tires
2. quality snow tires
3. cheap snow tires
4. AWD

of course #4 with any of the others is the best option.

A FWD with studded snows is a machine.

Be a long time before I own German...and I suppose European though I'm less familiar with Volvo's. I like inexpensive, reliable, high mileage vehicles. Subaru does that the best for my skill set. I can totally see why someone would want German cars, they are typically decked out, trimmed, and drive, perform, and handle unbelievably well so they have a great feel. They accomplish all that at the expense of other things I care more about.
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My understanding is that any 4th-gen ob may NOT be towed a significant distance with any wheels on the ground (2 or 4).
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Cost, that's the difference.

If you are concerned about snow traction here's the order of importance:
1. studded snow tires
2. quality snow tires
3. cheap snow tires
4. AWD

of course #4 with any of the others is the best option.

A FWD with studded snows is a machine.

Be a long time before I own German...and I suppose European though I'm less familiar with Volvo's. I like inexpensive, reliable, high mileage vehicles. Subaru does that the best for my skill set. I can totally see why someone would want German cars, they are typically decked out, trimmed, and drive, perform, and handle unbelievably well so they have a great feel. They accomplish all that at the expense of other things I care more about.
Volvo's is not German, They're Swedish.
Volvo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

& I'll never run Studded tires being I live in LA, Snow/Mud sure & I'd only get the AWD version of either car.
Yet being this will become the wife's main car I'd like a safe car & the Volvo's do have a great rep for being safe in a accident.

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My understanding is that any 4th-gen ob may NOT be towed a significant distance with any wheels on the ground (2 or 4).
Why is that?
What did they change that allows the others to be a better choice?
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