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Old 03-19-2008, 02:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 2001 Outback wagon with 130K miles that has a front end squeak/creak (more than a rubber squeak) that is getting worse. It happens when the car goes up and down on the suspension and turning. All this can happen while the car is stopped and/or off, parked. You can really feal it when the car is parked/off while holding onto the suspension spring and have someone bounce the front left corner up and down.

This leads me to the steering tie-rod joint but I guess it could be a control arm ball joint. I have done a lot of work on other brand cars but not a Subi yet. Is there a common failure part on these I should be focusing on?

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It can be a bad/blown strut. It can be the bearing on top of the strut. It is possible its a ball joint or a tie rod end, but those are not common to go bad on subarus.

How many times the corner of the car bounce after you push hard on the bumper?


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It can be a bad/blown strut. It can be the bearing on top of the strut. It is possible its a ball joint or a tie rod end, but those are not common to go bad on subarus.

How many times the corner of the car bounce after you push hard on the bumper?


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Car seams pretty steady when it is pushed. No bounce to speak of. Is there some kind of bearing on top of the strut? I have been a back yard mechanic for the last 25 plus years and have done a bunch of work on cars/systems but have never heard of that but I am new to Subi's. It is cold and raining today so I havn't crawled under yet to look at it in depth.

I can change out whatever it is but just need to figure that out.

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Your due for struts.

Yes there is a top-hat bearing on top of the strut (if there wasnt the wheels wouldnt turn). Spray wd40 on one part at a time, then bounce the car. The squeek will change when you spray the right part. this includes the Strut shaft.


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Your due for struts.

Yes there is a top-hat bearing on top of the strut (if there wasnt the wheels wouldnt turn). Spray wd40 on one part at a time, then bounce the car. The squeek will change when you spray the right part. this includes the Strut shaft.


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Like I said, new to Subies. Now I have to wait for a dry day to try the WD-40 thing. I do have access to an auto hobby shop. Lifts, strut spring compressor etc. If it is the strut, what is the cheapest/best way to fix them? Is there a rebuild kit or just as good to buy a whole assy spring and all?

And form the sound of things, if it is the strutand/or top hat, it does not sound too critical to have it fixed right away or I can get away with fixing it in a month or so? I can chase down parts on here.

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If its struts I would recomend all 4 at a cost of about 245.00 for a set of GR2's (thats what I paid). The car may handle a bit a bit odd if you do just two, with the AWD.

When my strut blew, It bounced fine, but long right hand sweeps at high speeds had me talking to God a lot.


If its the tophat, you replace them with the struts, as they sit on top of the strut. This is not an uncommon arrangement.

Blu needed a ball joint at 210,000 miles, thats how tough the front end parts are.

It may just as simple as a dried out bushing too.


But over 100,000 miles, struts start showing thier age, and usually by 180,000 they need replacing.



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If its struts I would recomend all 4 at a cost of about 245.00 for a set of GR2's (thats what I paid). The car may handle a bit a bit odd if you do just two, with the AWD.

When my strut blew, It bounced fine, but long right hand sweeps at high speeds had me talking to God a lot.


If its the tophat, you replace them with the struts, as they sit on top of the strut. This is not an uncommon arrangement.

Blu needed a ball joint at 210,000 miles, thats how tough the front end parts are.

It may just as simple as a dried out bushing too.


But over 100,000 miles, struts start showing thier age, and usually by 180,000 they need replacing.



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Ok nipper, I give.

Been looking up struts for this 2001 LL Bean Outback H6 and all I have found is the OEM units. May I ask for a name/link for the GR2's you mentioned? Not that this car needs super high performance, it does not. But might as well look at something as good or better.
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Ok nipper, I give.

Been looking up struts for this 2001 LL Bean Outback H6 and all I have found is the OEM units. May I ask for a name/link for the GR2's you mentioned? Not that this car needs super high performance, it does not. But might as well look at something as good or better.
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And I guess it would be a good idea to replace the top hat at the same time. Looks like an additional expense...

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Before you pull apart everything and get into expensive repairs, I would start by take apart the swaybar bushings and use some marine grease on them. My 2007 is beginning to squeak going over frost heaves and I plan to do mine as soon as it gets warmer. The marine grease works great because the salty slush cannot wash it off. Make sure you wear gloves when you do it because nothing will wash that grease off your hands.
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http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/se...294967264+9313

They are a bit more money for your car then for Blu.

This is the strut mount

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/se...294967264+9249


But like i siad, trace down the squeek first.

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