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Old 06-07-2008, 10:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK guys, help me out here. Other than the online manuals that I could look at, are there any really good publications available that apply to working on my 08 2.5i OBW w/5spd MT?

Aside from my current Subaru, I have owned an Accura, an Audi, two BMWs, a Datsun, a Fiat, two Hondas, two Hyundais, two Opels, a Mitsubishi, two VW's, and seven other American make vehicles over the years.

This Subaru seems to be the only one for which I can't get a decent updated service/repair manual . What gives? I like to do ALL my own car service and repairs and I like to do it without guessing. Does anyone know a source for a good manual? The dealer wants to sell me the various sections of the "official" shop manual at some unbelieveable price per section. Is that all there is available?
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, as you have found out, the official service manual is very expensive.

The better way I've heard of is to subscripe to an online service, and print out what you need as you go.

techinfo.subaru.com

http://alldata.com/

http://alldatadiy.com/

http://endwrench.com/main.php?smPID=HTML::home.html

Of course, some people *might* be able to find .pdf files of the offical service manual. Mind you those are not legal copies.
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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OK guys, help me out here. Other than the online manuals that I could look at, . . .
We all have our individual preferences. I too had a preference for “hard copy” manuals. But I’ve come to appreciate the Subaru approach.

Its printed manuals are indeed expensive. But its on-line documentation is good, relatively inexpensive, and continuously updated. And you can download and save it.

The on-line manuals and other information are available in pdf format on the www.techinfo.subaru.com site. Go to the upper right “reference” tab, and select from the drop down year and model lists. You can peruse all the available information (e.g. the titles of each sub-sub-section file) at no cost, but not the actual documents (except for those in the “Free documentation” list, which applies to accessories and service manual corrections/updates).

A full service manual, depending on the year and engine/transmission combination, would be made up of about 700 individual pdf files. The minimum 72 hour subscription, for about $40, is enough time to download all of them (even with the 50/hour limit), as well as a lot of other useful information, such as TSBs, technician training modules, and “TechTips” -- the monthly Subaru publication for Subaru mechanics.

With it all stored on a hard drive, memory stick or whatever, it is portable and can be accessed readily. Individual pages can be printed, when needed. And, by checking the website either before doing major work, or periodically, you can check for corrections/updates (at no cost) and your information will always be as up to date as you need it to be at the cost of a minimum subscription. And, if the printed paper copy gets messed up, as service manuals tend to do, there’s no problem, just print out another page.
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What size memory stick or flash drive would I need to download the Pdf files you have described?
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I don't know what the 08 files will include, but I would imagine the 07 and 08 would be quite similar.

I downloaded all the service/repair sections relevant to my 07. This did not include the H6 and Turbo engine sections, or the Manual Transmission sections. I also have some duplicate files, mainly where there have been corrections but I kept the originals, and a few files for other models that I thought might be interesting to have. 824 files, 65 mB. (Most are in the 50 - 100 kB range, but there’s some over 1 mB.) Each file had to be titled and sorted to correspond to the lists (volume number, section, sub-section etc) on the website, and I use printouts of the web-site list as a top “table of contents”. In use, finding a particular topic is helped by using the “Find” function of Adobe Reader, which I set to scan the whole manual and display all the relevant pages.

In addition, I have:

06 and 07 volumes of “Mechanisms and Functions” which are the sections explaining the operation (but not the repair) of major components. (The service manual sections tend to be just that -- minimum explanation of how things work.)

TechTips and Endwrench issues of interest (Endwrench is not from the Subaru web-site -- it can be accessed at www.endwrench.com.)

Training manuals. (These are supposed to be used with associated videos and courses, but quite a few are very useful on their own. They don’t cover everything, but given that they are available at the same time, for no additional cost, why not?)

TSBs and service manual corrections.

Altogether it currently totals about 350 mB. I keep it on my hard disk, and on a 1 gB stick.

If you can spare the time and effort, the $ cost is well worth it IMHO.
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Sounds good.

When I find it I will likely load it onto a 2gig flash drive that I have sitting around. Then I can just insert it into my laptop's USB port and access the manual that way.
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