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Old 05-06-2012, 05:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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We just bought a new Outback Limited with the CRV transmission.Our driveway is very steep and the hiil holder only seems to work part of the time.
It seems most times when I put the hiil holder on with the transmission in D either the brake light doesn't come on till you shift through the other gear positions ,or when you take off the hill holder (which I realise is the parking brake) will not release unless you manually release the parking brake.
Other times if you release the hill holder with your foot on the gas the vehicle pulls right off.I know your foot has to be on the brake to activate the parking brake and hill holder, and also has to be on the brake to release the parking brake, but shouldn't the hill holder release after you push the button again and give it gas?
It does seem like this only happens on very steep hills,(like my driveway).
Any thoughts on this? Thanks
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There are certain requirements for hill holder to activate. First of all is that the feature needs to be turned on prior to reaching the hill. I think you also have to be going a certain speed in order for it to activate (my manual is in the car, downstairs, and the Subaru site isn't cooperating to let me view it).

As far as the parking brake itself. NO, the service brake does NOT have to be in use in order to have the auto-release of the brake. Put the vehicle in gear and tap the gas, the only other requirement is that the driver is buckled up.

Hill holder may not release when you PUSH the button, you may need to PULL the button, but it should also release with a tap of the gas (mine does).
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This may be a stupid question...but doesn't the term "hill holder" only apply to a manual transmission and not the CVT of the OP?

CVT not CRV by the way...unless your have a Toyota under your Outback somewhere...
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If you put the hill holder on before you reach the hill ,the brake light on the dash and the parking brake light on the parking brake button both illumanate , they always do ,this would put on your parking brake and your your brakes would be dragging and I would think this would be like driving with the parking brake on.
Also I've tried giving it gas and the vehicle won't move till I release the parking brake.I didn't know you could pull out the hill holder button.
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Yes it is CVT not CRV ,I get easily confused.
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You don't pull out on the hill holder button, you pull out on the parking brake button. I've had my OB for 8 months now, i don't recall the thresholds but I know how the functions work.

Hill holder. Push the button either when you start driving or at any time before you reach the hill, stop on the hill and the brake will engage. When you want to start moving again, just tap the gas the brake releases.

Brake, once engaged it will release with a tap of the gas (pulling the brake "button" from the bottom will also release), but it requires the driver be buckled in. I have a decent hill leading to my garage, I use my parking brake on a regular basis.

I know this stuff is explained in the manual. I just can't copy and paste it right now since the online manual isn't working.

AWDFTW, all of the 4th-gen OB's have hill holder.
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AWDFTW, all of the 4th-gen OB's have hill holder.
You kids and your new fangled contraptions.
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I read the manual but didn't remember what it said. Thankyou for straightning me out . I think I've got it now.
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