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Old 01-18-2013, 09:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a '99 Impreza Outback Sport that just rolled over 200k miles (200,009 currently). It has a 2.2L engine and I believe it is the EJ222 Flavor, however I cannot find any markings confirming the difference. The engine stamp just says EJ22.

Also I know it has a valve cover gasket leak on all four cylinders. They all have oil on the spark plug boot. This doesn't concern me much as it's been like that for the last 75,000 miles.

It's also got an oil leak that has the underbody coated in oil, but I can't find the source, and that's been existent for the last 35k miles. This is also causing another not totally concerning problem that the engine will lightly smoke for about 60 seconds after the car is parked.

The above two problems are something that I know I need to address soon, but I haven't had the time to take the engine out to do the work, or the money to pay a shop to do it for me.

The real problem is below.

It's gotten cold where I live and for the first few weeks the car was running fine. Suddenly it started acting weird, if I started it, it suddenly didn't want to make power if it was cold. The engine would just bog down and sound really "throaty" like it was pushing a huge load. It got to the point where I couldn't get the car to move at all until the engine was completely warm, and I had to get the RPMs up to about 1,500 and shift into gear to get it to move. After it started moving normally all was fine, I could stop, shut the engine off and let it cool slightly before restarting it and all would be good.

My original thought, and based on the suggestions of others was something was wrong with the transmission. So I replaced all the fluids, filter, drove, then replaced again. Didn't make a difference.

Took it to the local dealer to change the differential fluid because the car started stuttering when cornering, and it had gotten sub-zero and I don't have a heated garage. I also couldn't find the the front differential fill point/dipstick for the life of me. There was only a drain plug. In the engine compartment there was only the ATF dipstick and engine fill and dipstick. The mechanic came back and said that he took it for a drive and said it sounded and felt like I had a plugged catalytic converter. This was without telling him about the problem beforehand, just taking it for the fluid change. Regardless, the fluid change didn't help.

I just got done changing the catalytic converter out with a bosal 096-195 the car doesn't have the throaty sound anymore which is better, but it still has the same behavior, I'm not sure if this is due to me not having reset the ecu after the cat change or not, but this is getting beyond frustrating.

Other symptoms that appeared when the non-existent power when cold problem started are as follows:

Pulsing idle (When warm pulses between 550 and 600 RPM, quickly. It did this before but was very subtle, now it's very noticeable when listening to the engine.)

Frequent downshifts on hills that never required one before.

Horrible mileage (Most likely relating to the above problem.)

Finally not sure if it's related or not, but I noticed the hint of it tonight, if I have a load on the engine, there's almost a slight hissing/squeaking/whine not sure which it sounds more like, but it's higher pitched.


Anyway if you made it through all of that any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Idle Air Control Valve is a possability, but when was the last time it had a full tune up.

Make sure your tires match and are properly inflated, as you are getting the beginings of TB. Any CEL on the dash?
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Idle Air Control Valve is a possability, but when was the last time it had a full tune up.

Make sure your tires match and are properly inflated, as you are getting the beginings of TB. Any CEL on the dash?
The only CEL it's been throwing for the month before the issue came up was a P0440. I'd just clear it out, and it took longer to turn on each time. It normally happen after I filled the tank.

And quick question, what is TB?

Side note, I'm trying to determine if this might be a vacuum issue, but my intake manifold pressure freeze frame seems a bit high for that to be an issue. 17.17 inHg, this was also a week or so before the problem started so I'm not sure if a leak has developed since then.
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TB= Torque Bind
Which can also affect mpg
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I'd like to think it might be torque bind, but it stops as soon as the engine is warm and the car is moving normally.
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After you fill the tank is pointing to an EVAP issue. Are you overfilling your tank. That will cause this as liquid fuel gets in a system made for fuel vapors. Can be a bad charcoal canister, couple of other things.
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Is your temp gauge where it supposed to be?

Have you plugged in a scanner to see if your engine temp sensor ofr the ECU is operaiting properly?

WHat happens with the AC on?

Are all the vac lines on the air intake connected?
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Temp gauge stubbornly sits at halfway between cold and hot at normal operating temps, and the last freeze frame I have stored says 204.8 F which seems to be right in the ballpark of where it should be.

I don't have a scanner to pull live data, any ideas on where I could rent or buy one?

I haven't actually tried the AC. What would I expect to change?

As far as I can tell all of my vacuum lines are correctly connected. When I disconnected my front O2 sensor when I changed the cats out I knocked a line off something that looked similar to a wastegate, but I put the line back on after I put everything back together. It seemed really loose though and really stiff/brittle.
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See if autozone has one the can rent/borrow. Would be interesting to see if it works well on the way up.

The IACV is affected by AC operation. It controls the idle speed. It can be a cause of idel surging and doing other odd things.
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For the heck of it I tried the the AT code trick to see if my transmission was throwing any codes, I got a nice 2 blink per second no code light.

While I was out there I noticed that the car is taking off slightly faster, once it's warm it takes off v. having to fight it to get it initially moving.

The AC did not affect the idle, at first it seemed to amplify the issue, but then after turning it off, nothing changed.

I also noticed that the engine has more power in the low RPM range, after it hesitates. If I gradually accelerate everything is fine, if I try to accelerate quickly, maybe a sudden 15-25% throttle, it hesitates for a second and sound really throaty, and I thought I might have heard a slight whine but I'm not sure.

I guess that's what happens when it's cold, it hesitates, but never really recovers to provide power. If you let off the gas it takes about 5 seconds to recover a normal idle, but until then its really stuttery.

I'm not sure if I'm really contributing helpful info or not so let me know any additional tests I can try.

I have to wait until tomorrow for Autozone or O'Rileys to open, they closed about an hour ago. Then I'll try the scan tool.
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