Bank 1 Sensor 1 NODATA - Subaru Outback

smn · 02-10-2013, 06:05 PM

On my diagnostic scan tool, I show NO DATA for the Bank 1 Sensor 1. The other sensor shows values from 0.0 to 0.78. However, after replacing the front sensor I'm still getting NO DATA.

When I check the scanner on my wife's vehicle it's reading numerical data for Bank 1 Sensor 1.

It seems like this could be a bad wire, could it not? Has anyone experienced this before?

rasterman · 02-10-2013, 06:31 PM

The wires are fairly exposed down there... not unheard of to break them or tear them out on rough terrain. All you can do is follow it upstream and tap it to see where it works, replace from there down.

smn · 02-20-2013, 05:27 PM

Is there a fuse for the oxygen sensor on the 2000 OBW with AT? Does anyone have a diagram for the front O2 sensor and this fuse? I'd like to see what else runs off this fuse.

plain OM · 02-20-2013, 08:07 PM

Front and rear sensors are powered from the same source via the "main relay", so if the rear sensor is working properly, it's not a power supply problem.

smn · 02-20-2013, 09:16 PM

Ok, thanks for the clarification. The wiring diagram I did find agrees with what you say. So I've got either a bad wire or the Bosch sensor that says it's an exact fit isn't communicating. I'll get to finding the wire sometime soon, I hope.

cardoc · 02-20-2013, 09:23 PM

Are you using Global OBD II to read the car? Is your wife's car a Subaru? It may be a programming issue with the scanner. Bosch doesn't tend to make bad sensors. Now if someone dropped the box while unpacking and shelving, then its possible a circuit is open in the sensor. What did the box look like?

smn · 02-20-2013, 09:57 PM

The box was in good condition and I still have it and the old sensor. Both give NO DATA on the reader. My wife's vehicle is a Toyota Sienna using the same bluetooth ELM327 code reader.

I used a Bosch widebad A/F sensor, part no. 17018 from a local Advanced Auto store. I changed it out about two weeks ago.

cardoc · 02-20-2013, 10:16 PM

What is the part number on the old sensor? Its stamped in the sensor base.

smn · 02-20-2013, 10:25 PM

It looks like "258007018". And I see "785145 03".

cardoc · 02-20-2013, 10:49 PM

258007018 is a Bosch Lambda sensor but it doesn't cross to another number. Bosch's webpage shows 17018 as the AF sensor for your car with automatic.

PartInformation 17018

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02-10-2013, 06:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
smn Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 49 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bank 1 Sensor 1 NODATA On my diagnostic scan tool, I show NO DATA for the Bank 1 Sensor 1. The other sensor shows values from 0.0 to 0.78. However, after replacing the front sensor I'm still getting NO DATA. When I check the scanner on my wife's vehicle it's reading numerical data for Bank 1 Sensor 1. It seems like this could be a bad wire, could it not? Has anyone experienced this before?

02-20-2013, 09:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
cardoc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Austin Car: 2001 VDC, 2000 Outback 5MT (on the cheap) Posts: 3,096 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Are you using Global OBD II to read the car? Is your wife's car a Subaru? It may be a programming issue with the scanner. Bosch doesn't tend to make bad sensors. Now if someone dropped the box while unpacking and shelving, then its possible a circuit is open in the sensor. What did the box look like? __________________ SubarCharged 2001 VDC AWD Super Charged 3.0 Raptor VLLC Water Cooled Ultralight Denso WRX 410cc Injectors (Soon DW650cc) Silicone Intakes tubing w/GReddy TypeS Type 13 WTA intercooler with 10x13 radiator w/7" fan Aeromotive FPR & DW300 pushing E85 Innovate Motorsport WB, EGT, VAC/Boost Gauges Projector HID Headlights/HID Fogs Clarion DD, Polk Audio, Kicker Sub, SO M1350 Amp All ECM Mapping by ED @ XRT naysayers All the goodies with an extra kick in the seat

02-20-2013, 10:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
cardoc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Austin Car: 2001 VDC, 2000 Outback 5MT (on the cheap) Posts: 3,096 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What is the part number on the old sensor? Its stamped in the sensor base. __________________ SubarCharged 2001 VDC AWD Super Charged 3.0 Raptor VLLC Water Cooled Ultralight Denso WRX 410cc Injectors (Soon DW650cc) Silicone Intakes tubing w/GReddy TypeS Type 13 WTA intercooler with 10x13 radiator w/7" fan Aeromotive FPR & DW300 pushing E85 Innovate Motorsport WB, EGT, VAC/Boost Gauges Projector HID Headlights/HID Fogs Clarion DD, Polk Audio, Kicker Sub, SO M1350 Amp All ECM Mapping by ED @ XRT naysayers All the goodies with an extra kick in the seat

02-20-2013, 10:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
cardoc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Austin Car: 2001 VDC, 2000 Outback 5MT (on the cheap) Posts: 3,096 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	258007018 is a Bosch Lambda sensor but it doesn't cross to another number. Bosch's webpage shows 17018 as the AF sensor for your car with automatic. PartInformation 17018 . __________________ SubarCharged 2001 VDC AWD Super Charged 3.0 Raptor VLLC Water Cooled Ultralight Denso WRX 410cc Injectors (Soon DW650cc) Silicone Intakes tubing w/GReddy TypeS Type 13 WTA intercooler with 10x13 radiator w/7" fan Aeromotive FPR & DW300 pushing E85 Innovate Motorsport WB, EGT, VAC/Boost Gauges Projector HID Headlights/HID Fogs Clarion DD, Polk Audio, Kicker Sub, SO M1350 Amp All ECM Mapping by ED @ XRT naysayers All the goodies with an extra kick in the seat

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02-10-2013, 06:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
rasterman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: PA Car: 2006 Outback XT Limited Posts: 2,404 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The wires are fairly exposed down there... not unheard of to break them or tear them out on rough terrain. All you can do is follow it upstream and tap it to see where it works, replace from there down.

02-20-2013, 05:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
smn Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 49 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is there a fuse for the oxygen sensor on the 2000 OBW with AT? Does anyone have a diagram for the front O2 sensor and this fuse? I'd like to see what else runs off this fuse.

02-20-2013, 08:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
plain OM Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nepean ON Canada Car: 07 OBW 2.5i Touring (SE) D-4AT Posts: 6,923 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Front and rear sensors are powered from the same source via the "main relay", so if the rear sensor is working properly, it's not a power supply problem.

02-20-2013, 09:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
smn Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 49 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok, thanks for the clarification. The wiring diagram I did find agrees with what you say. So I've got either a bad wire or the Bosch sensor that says it's an exact fit isn't communicating. I'll get to finding the wire sometime soon, I hope.

02-20-2013, 09:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
smn Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 49 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The box was in good condition and I still have it and the old sensor. Both give NO DATA on the reader. My wife's vehicle is a Toyota Sienna using the same bluetooth ELM327 code reader. I used a Bosch widebad A/F sensor, part no. 17018 from a local Advanced Auto store. I changed it out about two weeks ago.

02-20-2013, 10:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
smn Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 49 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It looks like "258007018". And I see "785145 03".

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