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Old 06-25-2008, 02:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have this noise coming from within the drivetrain somewhere. Basically, when I let the clutch out in any gear (its louder when there is more load on the engine) there is a small click sounds like somewhere between the drive shaft and front end drivetrain. itll also do it if im high in the rpm band (3- 4k) and just let off the gas abruptly. almost like there is some play in the drivetrain.

I had the car up on the lift today and i was checking all the suspension and i noticed that the bushing where the rear left hub connects towards the front of the car; kind of looks like a dog bone had slipped almost off the inside of the arm.

I also noticed quite some play in the drive shaft, between the front and rear differentials. I could probably turn it 1/8 turn. I checked the transmission fluid and its yellow

Not sure if i should drain and fill fluids, the car has 168k 5spd on it and i dont know if they ever changed the fluid.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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CHange fluids but it wont help this.

YOu have either a bad tranny mount, a bad universal joint, a seized universal joint, or maybe a clutch issue.


How many miles on the clutch?

Do you hear the noise louder when going from forward to reverse?

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Not too sure when the clutch was replaced, but I've had some mechanics check it they say its still good.
I'll put it on the lift again and check directly where the sound is coming from.

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well, i was messing around with the car and it does make the noise more loudly when i go from reverse to forward.

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I now have an extremely strange whining noise when I get up to cruising speed in any gear (I heard it most at a slower speed, 20 mph), sounds like it is definitely coming from the clutch; when i depress the clutch the whine stops. The click has also gotten louder and sounds more towards the front of the car.

The axles were replaced probably about 2 weeks ago. When we noticed a strange wobble we realized that the axle on the passenger side of the car was not properly torqued down; we hit it with an impact hammer and tightened the sucker right up. I'm not too sure what to do. Any help would be good to save this subie!
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alright i just put the beast on the lift. There is a lot of play in the rack and pinion from left to right. Is there an adjustment on the inside of the rack? I hope so because i was looking at replacing the whole rack at around 500 beans.

The drive shaft is definatly loose. Its in the u joints and i think the carrier bearing. Anyone know where i can find these parts and how hard they are to install? we dont have a press but we have power tools and a lift.
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Get a used driveshaft, or purchase one rebuilt.

Rack play is really hard to define on line. Usually they leak, they dont wear out. Are you sure its not the internal nuckles of the tie rod ends your seeing? Those are servicable.


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it is definitely internal i can see the steering column turning on the top of the steering rack when i shake the wheel forwards and back. I took the lock nut off the adjusting screw and tightened the adj. screw a bit. The play went away but it seems now that the steering doesn't return to center when i turn the wheel i sort of have to move it back manually. Brakes still shuttering

There is a guy out by me called the Subaru Guru and he is gonna take a look at it.
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Steering lash adjustments can do more harm then good if over adjusted.

Good to get some exp eyes to look at it.

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are you in wa? a guy from kent left me a card for a subaru guru. have similar issues.
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Im in MA. The guys name is Dana Prentice he owns the Car Works in Templeton

People say he is better than a factory tech, home grown TLC
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i brought my car down to the "guru" and was sorely disappointed. He called me around 3 pm the same day i dropped it off and said he had no desire to look at the car! I think he was scared of the ground kit i picked up off eBay. I don't understand why he was so temperamental but if you ever go to a guy in MA called dana for Subaru stuff i would suggest away from it if you have any mods. looks like im **** out of luck now. i dont know where else to bring it. factory service is so expensive
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