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rawshooter 10-23-2008 01:07 PM

Toyo Eclipse Tires = Mysterious
 
Hey guys, this is my first post.

The other day I took my Outback to Les Schwabb to get a slow leak patched. I was told my tire was not patchable...and because It was a Subaru I had to get all new tires. It was about time anyways, the potenza's were almost done...

Anyways, I told them I wanted a do-it-all workhorse all-season tire (yeah i know..the ideal tire) and they sent me out the door with some Toyo Eclipse's. Curious how good my new tires were, I googled "toyo eclipse tires" and found almost ZERO info. Weird. I searched "toyo eclipse" on this forum and found ONE thread. Even weirder. Those BFG Traction and GY Triple Treads are everywhere! I was going to get a the BFG's...but Les Schwabb doesn't carry them and I needed tires ASAP. How to the toyo's stack up against the BFG's?

Q1: Is there anybody out there with these tires?!
Q2: What are they like? (snow, mud, gravel, street)

Geez, I hope to hear they are awesome because I'm going to really put the tires on my subaru to the test! I'm an avid adventurer and I'd like to know how much I can trust them.

Thanks very much!

-Scott

AWDFTW 10-23-2008 02:23 PM

Huh. didn't see the model listed on the Toyo website.

Hope they work well for you, I've never run Toyo tires before.

rockhopjohn 10-23-2008 02:30 PM

Hmm, yeah, so those aren't regular Toyos. They may be made by Toyo for Les Schwab, but they don't match anything I can find on Toyo's website. It is very common for large tire places like Les Schwab to have tires manufactured at a lower grade by a large manufacturer (ie the Les Schwab Wildcat = Cooper Discoverer). Without having any experience with those tires, and just looking at them, I would say they are just a middle of the road All-Season, and that Les Schwab just sold you something the could make a good profit on.

They look like they are relatively similar to the Toyo Spectrum. Which is just sort of a middle of the road all-season tire.

Here is the link to the Eclipse at Les Schwab's website.

http://www.lesschwab.com/tires/passenger/eclipse.asp

Here is a link to a review of the Spectrum.

http://www.1010tires.com/tirereviews...e_reviews.html

I am curious how much they charged you for the tires. I have always been pretty happy with Les Schwab for everything BUT tires. If I need a bearing repacked, or a tire repaired, or winter wheels/tires swapped on, they are great, but when it come to tires they could care less about what you are looking for, they will sell you what they have.

porcupine73 10-23-2008 02:34 PM

I saw something that indicated they are for the Canadian market.

rockhopjohn 10-23-2008 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porcupine73
I saw something that indicated they are for the Canadian market.
Ahh, good tip.

Here we go:

http://www.toyocanada.com/products/eclipse.asp

Looks like they offer a 30 day trial period, so you might just see how they work for you, or that might at least give you time to find a dealer with the tires you really want (I recommend the BFGs).

porcupine73 10-23-2008 02:36 PM

yes here it was http://www.toyocanada.com/products/eclipse.asp

PASSENGER TIRE- ALL SEASON
ECLIPSE
All Season All Budget Radial

The TOYO ECLIPSE offers a new level of affordability and security all in one tire. All Season reliability combined with a long lasting tread design.

Advanced
Yet Affordable
All Season Radial

Features Benefits
1- M&S Rated - for all season versatility
2- UTQG Rating: 580 AB - mileage/traction - for added tire life yet maintains great traction for cornering and braking
3- Wide circumferential straight main grooves - provides effective water drainage minimizing hydroplaning
4- S figure center block slits - increases water evacuation from under the tread blocks to help increase traction
5- Serrated rib walls - alters air flow to help reduce any high frequency noise from where the tread contacts the road
6- Variable pitch shoulder and tread blocks - varying the pitch of the tread blocks changes the harmonics of the tire reducing road noise and increasing the ride comfort
7- Full depth multi-wave sipes in the shoulder blocks - interlocking wave sipes maximize the stability of the tread block helping to minimize both irregular wear and road noise

8- Rigid shoulder stabilizing ribs - connecting the shoulder blocks increases their stability helping to minimize irregular tire wear
9- 12/32 tread depth * most sizes - extra tread depth adds to the life of the tire
10- Attractive discreet sidewall detailing - to enhance the appearance of any vehicle.

The TOYO ECLIPSE offers advanced technology at a very affordable price all backed by an unbeatable guarantee. See your Toyo Eclipse retailer for details.


http://www.toyocanada.com/products/t...rg_eclipse.jpg

neutron 10-24-2008 09:29 AM

Toyo generally makes good stuff, except their tires made in Korea or China. The place of manufacture is what separates their lowline tires. The Korean tires in particular (in my experience) seem to be poor quality in terms of noise and smooth-rolling. I've never hazarded their Chinese tires, but try picking one up in a store - they weigh a ton. Must be all that lead. ;-)

Entropy 10-24-2008 10:42 AM

Weird, the tread pattern of those Eclipses looks almost exactly like the Potenza RE930is my old LeBaron had (and still has a pair of that are getting replaced next week because they have almost no tread left). The RE930i was apparently a Costco special item that I have never seen real reviews of.

The one thing I know about the 930s - they were quite noisy, esp. in turns. I kinda liked the sound in my LeBaron with the top down (too much other noise with the top up), but might be annoying in a Subaru.

urban_outback 11-19-2008 02:48 PM

huh weird that you dont know anything about them they came stock on my outback. and ive seen them on tons of outbacks. and yeah they are a tire made by toyo for schwab.

there the only tires ive had on this car and ive gone through tons of snow rain ice and mud and have only gotten stuck by getting high centered.

rawshooter 12-17-2008 02:50 PM

Thanks for the replies all! Glad to hear they can do mud/ice/snow urbanoutback! I too, have seen them on many of the other outbacks in my town but I'm still surprised that not a lot, review-wise, is online about them.

I found myself in my first snow driving a few days ago and they did just fine. It was only about an inch though. Can't wait to test them in some deeper stuff though.

I would like to ask again though (for myself and potential future Eclipse buyers out there standing in the parking lots at Schwab wondering about these tires):

Anybody else out there that actually has these tires and have anything to say about them?


Thanks!


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