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Old 02-19-2013, 12:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The front end links on my car are bad so I am going to replace them. I was thinking of using the Moog links because they can be greased. Has anyone used these or is there another brand I should use?
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Moog is generally good stuff, and greasable zerks are definitely a plus. I've just owned my '13 Outback for 3 days now so I won't need to think about doing this for a while.

One thing you might look for, which I have no clue if they are available, is polyurethane bushings instead of rubber. They will stiffen up the body roll during cornering a little bit because they will deflect considerably less than rubber.
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i've used/seen the moog used without any problems in my small sample. and they seem robust enough - although the rubber boot seems rather weak, i wasn't a fan of the last one i bought (not sure they're like this for all units models?) - it was just a "flap", it wasn't firmly connected or anything, just lift it up with your finger nail and there was the grease and joint...no wonder it needed a grease fitting!?!?!?!?? LOL i have one on my car and it seemed well constructed minus that silly flap of a boot...doesn't seem robust for long term usage in the salt, mud, grease, putting my boat in the water, offroad, snow, salt...but we'll see, it's easy enough to replace. next time I'll probably go OEM or look into Beck Arnley as sometimes their stuff is OEM.

newer generation Subaru end links seem to fail often compared to the past few decades of low maintenance Subaru suspension....???

i've been wondering this. i'm not sure "greaseable" joints means much by itself. plenty of higher maintenance cars (american usually i think) have greaseable parts that don't have near the life expectancy of the same Subaru part. the low life span of some ball joints, tie rod ends, ujoints on other vehicles surprises me compared to the more robust Subaru components which is just about all i work on.
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Clicking/failing end links are a common issue on both the Cadillac CTS and the C5/C6 Corvettes. GM has redesigned the Vette end links four or five times.

In my experience, failed greasable ball joints, tie rod ends, etc. are typically due to lack of regular greasing.
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Ok so I finally got around to installing the end links today. I went with the Moog they have metal ball and metal socket, the OEM parts are metal ball, plastic socket. They are alot heavier duty than the stock ones as well. They do have the grease fittings in them and I just plan to grease them every time I change the oil. Now its time to replace the rear and I will be going with the Moog for the rear as well.
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Clicking/failing end links are a common issue on both the Cadillac CTS and the C5/C6 Corvettes. GM has redesigned the Vette end links four or five times.

In my experience, failed greasable ball joints, tie rod ends, etc. are typically due to lack of regular greasing.
All the manufacturers went to sealed joints long ago. The only greaseable joints are aftermarket.
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Not true on GM full size trucks. There are 13 factory-installed zerks on my 2002 Avalanche. I'm not sure about the latest generation, though, because I haven't been underneath one. I'll have to take a peek the next time I'm around a buddy that has one.
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