Ethanol Free Fuel Station Listings

[xlr8]

For those like me who will drive 10 miles out of the way to get non-ethanol gasoline, the site below is usually fairly accurate.

I plan on running 100% gas in all my vehicles and power equipment until they completely eliminate it from the market.

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

[CNY_Dave]

In the CNY area all pumps are labeled "up to 10%", I drove on 10% in CT and I can say it is not 10% here- yet.


Dave

[AWDFTW]

None near me sadly. Love the MPG increase when I hit one of those while traveling though.

[ntippet]

Interesting.
Not many stations left that do this.

4 in the whole state of Maine, yeah I can't drive that far out of the way..

[Humboldtsquirrel]

Why non ethanol gas?

[MNOutback]

Originally Posted by Humboldtsquirrel

Why non ethanol gas?

better mileage is my no.1 reason to use it.
Never had fuel related or any mechanical problems running ethanol gas.
It may cause problems in older cars but in a modern engine not likely.
It will harm 2 cycle engines so don't use it in weedwackers or outboards.
Most marine gas has no ethanol in it.
Not going to get into the politics.

[xlr8]

I've had consistent difficult starting, rough idling and rough running for both a Honda Odyssey and a Ford F-150 on E10 ethanol fuels. There is 10% less available power (BTU's) in E10 ethanol than in 100% gas, which means it takes at least 10% more fuel to operate your engine. Ethanol has an affinity for moisture and tends to attract water. Many who operate outboard motors (both 2 and 4 cycle engines) have had to install fuel/water separators in the fuel lines between the gas tank and engines on their boats. Ethanol is also a solvent in that if you do happen to have any gunk that is already in your fuel system (such as on the bottom of the fuel tank), the ethanol puts the gunk particles into suspension so that they readily pass through the fuel lines potentially clogging both the fuel pump and/or the fuel injection system.

[Ignatius]

I made this thread sticky recently as I've tried ethanol free gas in my 2010 Outback 2.5i and it has never run better. More power and FAR better milage, I usually average slightly over 30mpg but with ethanol free gas I've been getting at least 33-34 mpg. This is by using a calculator at fill ups, not using the MPG guage on the Outback. I've been recommending this stuff to everyone.

[OCRentAPopo]

ugh... none even remotely close to DC

[the evil twin]

Originally Posted by xlr8

There is 10% less available power (BTU's) in E10 ethanol than in 100% gas, which means it takes at least 10% more fuel to operate your engine.

Not quite, but yes; fuel cut with ethanol does contain less energy per gallon. I'm too lazy to figure it out right now, but the difference between the two is about 40,000 btu per gallon. The gasoline is only cut with up to 10% ethanol so that doesn't equate to a 10% loss in energy.

Gasoline, US gallon = 115,000 Btu = 121 MJ = 32 MJ/liter (LHV). HHV = 125,000 Btu/gallon = 132 MJ/gallon = 35 MJ/liter

ethanol energy content (LHV) =75,700 Btu/gallon = 26.7 GJ/t = 21.1 MJ/liter. HHV for ethanol = 84,000 Btu/gallon = 89 MJ/gallon = 23.4 MJ/liter

1 horsepower hour= about 2540 btu

In any event, ethanol laced fuel has less power per unit.

Originally Posted by xlr8

Ethanol is also a solvent

And the best part about that is solvents have low flash points! Which means ethanol evaporates much faster than gasoline does. Which means that it usually goes through your evaporative emission system and does even less to produce power. Add that to being saturated with water (which requires exponentially more energy to vaporize) and we are stuck buying more fuel and getting less bang for our buck!