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Old 02-04-2013, 12:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hey all,

getting ready to test out amsoil's SSO 0W-20 for more or less a 12-15k miles/1 year OCI (will check oil regularly etc of course) but I was wondering - for those of you 2013 outbacks, do you guys know if Amsoil has an equivalent oil filter? Right now it's listed as no product recommended, so I'm not sure if I should just buy the oil and then get a filter from the Subie dealership or what.

Also, do you guys think running an extended OCI with Amsoil is potential for a warranty issue later down the line if there is a failure? Thanks
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Subaru's filter for the 2.5 2013 outback has a higher bypass design than most. The oil filter aftermarket really hasn't caught up yet, and high capacity oil filters aftermarket filters are not readily available. For your 5/60 warranty period I would stick to Subaru filters and 0w-20 synthetic oil with 7500mi oil changes. You can still use any oil that meets the specs. Mobil 1 AFE 0w20 is a lot cheaper than Amsoil, about $25/5qt at Walmart. Even Subaru oil at the dealer is cheaper. If you use Subaru bucks you can get all of your maintenance done free too

It's hardly worth the risk of voiding your warranty just to save a little on maintenance. The Subaru oil filters are not designed for extended drain intervals anyway. I'd wait until you are past the warranty period and hopefully high capacity filters will be available then.
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Subaru's filter for the 2.5 2013 outback has a higher bypass design than most. The oil filter aftermarket really hasn't caught up yet, and high capacity oil filters aftermarket filters are not readily available. For your 5/60 warranty period I would stick to Subaru filters and 0w-20 synthetic oil with 7500mi oil changes. You can still use any oil that meets the specs. Mobil 1 AFE 0w20 is a lot cheaper than Amsoil, about $25/5qt at Walmart. Even Subaru oil at the dealer is cheaper. If you use Subaru bucks you can get all of your maintenance done free too

It's hardly worth the risk of voiding your warranty just to save a little on maintenance. The Subaru oil filters are not designed for extended drain intervals anyway. I'd wait until you are past the warranty period and hopefully high capacity filters will be available then.
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just to confirm though, there IS a risk of voiding warranty going with a longer OCI? even like 10k miles?
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just to confirm though, there IS a risk of voiding warranty going with a longer OCI? even like 10k miles?
Yes. The maintenance schedule is actually a schedule, and 7500 means 7500......it does not mean 10,000-15,000, or when you get around to it.
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Yes. The maintenance schedule is actually a schedule, and 7500 means 7500......it does not mean 10,000-15,000, or when you get around to it.
gotcha.. didn't know subaru dealerships were that stringent.
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gotcha.. didn't know subaru dealerships were that stringent.
Every auto manufacturer is the same way. They don't have a "unless you use Amsoil" clause in their maintenance schedule.
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Every auto manufacturer is the same way. They don't have a "unless you use Amsoil" clause in their maintenance schedule.
lol well i figured in case of something breaking down they'll try to find whatever they can to void the warranty, even if i had UOAs for every oil change.
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I've been running extended service intervals with Amsoil for 35 years, including many new vehicles under warranty. Provided the engine is mechanically sound, there are simply no issues - the oil works exactly as advertised (several of my oil analyses are posted in this forum). In vehicles under warranty, I also take used oil samples at the end of a 15,000 mile change interval and have them tested. This is done mainly to make sure the engines functioning normally. This is the procedure I'd recommend for new vehicles under warranty. Once you've established a suitable service interval, there is no need to do oil analysis, unless you strongly suspect a mechanical issue.

As for the filter, Amsoil does not yet spec one for this application. I'd recommend using the OEM filter and changing it halfway through (6000-7500 miles or six months), your anticipated service interval for the oil.

If you have any further questions, please PM or email me....

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I've been running extended service intervals with Amsoil for 35 years, including many new vehicles under warranty. Provided the engine is mechanically sound, there are simply no issues - the oil works exactly as advertised (several of my oil analyses are posted in this forum). In vehicles under warranty, I also take used oil samples at the end of a 15,000 mile change interval and have them tested. This is done mainly to make sure the engines functioning normally. This is the procedure I'd recommend for new vehicles under warranty. Once you've established a suitable service interval, there is no need to do oil analysis, unless you strongly suspect a mechanical issue.

As for the filter, Amsoil does not yet spec one for this application. I'd recommend using the OEM filter and changing it halfway through (6000-7500 miles or six months), your anticipated service interval for the oil.

If you have any further questions, please PM or email me....

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All that is wonderful.......Until the motor pukes, and you expect a warrantied repair or replacement. Following the manufacturer's maintenance schedule leaves less room for them to weasel out.

I take it you have never had a motor go boom during the warranty period. If you do, I hope Amsoil steps up and covers the repairs......Because it is unlikely the manufacturer will......Even if it was not a lubrication failure. Good luck.
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