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Old 11-09-2007, 01:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I see this come up a lot, and its a pretty simple fix if anyone wants to get rid of that annoying air sound that only seems to come up at highway speeds.
(At least on mine)

Basically, with the frame-less windows, when people shut the door with the window it eventually bends it out of shape, sure you can shut the door with the door, but most passengers (where my leak always is) tend to shut the door with the glass as its arm height. Whatever, like I said, simple fix.

Basically, roll down the window making the noise, and squeeze together the two sides of the gasket. Where the speaker is and where the mirror is (at least on my car) Squeeze it and hold it for a moment, go ahead and do it in a couple places, I've never overtightened this thing. When the window goes up it will push it back to the shape it needs to be if you overdid it.

That's it. If you roll the window open and you notice on either side the gasket isn't forming a 'seal' on the window, its definitely your culprit. At this point I think I've over complicated the explanation because I've spent 4 paragraphs explaining what a picture can do easier.



I've found myself doing this twice a year and it fixes it fine. A super temporary fix for me is to roll the window all the way up, and just barely tap it down, this somehow pushes the window out some and forms the air seal to shut the window up.
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Ahh....good tip brucey! I'm going to have to try this out.
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I'm not sure how people discover that rolling up the window and then just tapping it down a tiny bit works, but I figured it out somehow and so did another friend of mine with a 2nd gen OBW. I'm definitely going to try squeezing the gusset together with the window down. Thanks!
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My 2000 obw does that. I take an index card and fold it into thirds lengthwise and stuff it between the gasket and the window and the sound stops. I only do this when I go on long trips. It comes on around 55 mph.
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I'm not sure how people discover that rolling up the window and then just tapping it down a tiny bit works, but I figured it out somehow and so did another friend of mine with a 2nd gen OBW. I'm definitely going to try squeezing the gusset together with the window down. Thanks!
I have the same problem on my '02 Outback and somehow was fixing the issue by doing the same window control tapping!

I thought the seal was letting air in higher along the window, but I'll try this out next time I'm getting on the highway.
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On my '90 Legacy I would stick a pen up between the window and the gasket in the center of the top of the glass.
ON my '03 Outback I had to put the drivers window down, open the door and bend the black triangle that the mirror is on toward the car. I rode in my mother's '02 outback and found the same noise. I fixed hers the same way. It took 2 seconds, the dealer said it would cost big $$ so she thought she would have to live with it. Both cars have been quiet since.
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Found out a couple things about these- they are called "window gussets" when you go to buy them. They are also expensive when you go to buy them- about $64 each online for a '96 Outback (checked a few places). I haven't bought any yet, but probably will have to as both of mine are cracked at the top and are leaking.
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I tried this tip, but it did not work. I have found out that my "wheezing/morse code signal" is related to the side mirror. When I drive and pull the mirror into the car then the sound disappears.

Any ideas on how to get rid of that annoying sound?
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Basically, with the frameless windows, when people shut the door with the window it eventually bends it out of shape, sure you can shut the door with the door, but most passengers (where my leak always is) tend to shut the door with the glass as its arm height. Whatever, like I said, simple fix.

Basically, roll down the window making the noise, and squeeze together the two sides of the gasket. Where the speaker is and where the mirror is (at least on my car) Squeeze it and hold it for a moment, go ahead and do it in a couple places, I've never overtightened this thing. When the window goes up it will push it back to the shape it needs to be if you overdid it.
I had this same problem for years on my '02 Bean. Dealer replace gusset (under warranty) 5 years ago and told mee it had a neew metal bracket inside. Solved problem for may 6 months. Wind noise came back. Couple years ago read about a fix that is similar to the above, but slightly more aggressive and seems to have solved the problem permanently (almost two years an dno noisee or readjustment).

Here it is: Sit in car, open door ~6 inches, lower window, put foot out on the ground and brace knee against door, grasp top of gusset and bend in towards car (about 1/2 inch). The gusset should only actually change postion about 1/8 inch once you let go. The first time I did this I was very gentle and only reduced the wind noise. I got more brave and said "what the h*ll" and bent it in more. I was very sceptical at first, but have tried all tjhe other "tricks" I figured I would give it a shot. Worked great for me, byt DIY'ers beware as with any repair.
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Ho-lee crap. Wow!!

My wife and I have been putting up with that MF'ing noise for so long I had forgotten that there could possibly be a solution. I can't believe it. I am so happy about this right now, you have no idea.

I never even would have thought to search for this if I hadn't read someone reference it in another thread. It worked like a charm. Thank you!

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