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post #11 of 51 (permalink) Old 12-01-2017, 03:54 AM
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Neat car.

I’m loving the design and look of the car.

Of course, one of the first questions I have is: what is Subaru doing for the Infotanment Center, and will it be kept up to date? Unlike the shambles that are tne systems in the last two models of Outback / Legacy, and others?

If Subaru plans on getting into what is effectively the minivan market, they are going to need to actually give some real consideration to the fine details for that infotainment system. Honda and Toyota crush them in this area, and the lack of updates is a serious issue.

In my case I dont think I’d even consider purchasing an Acent with a new engine design for three years.

After the 2013MY 2.5L FB engine issue, where the PZEV engines where burning oil at an alarming rate, and people went through multiple engines; we went through three (3) of them and it was far from painless getting Subaru to fix our Legacy with that new engine...

Looks like a great car, but I’d stay away until it’s been out for a few years; Subaru has a habit of issues with new engines and a poor record of keeping the infortainment center updated.

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Love the concept, but im sure it falls into the “wait until its been out forma few years” category.

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It is tuned for 87 for the Ascent
Wonder what kindda numbers it would throw down tuned for premium?

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Wonder what kindda numbers it would throw down tuned for premium?

I will be surprised if it comes tuned for 87 octane. Other automakers have went that route without too much success. Especially with direct injection engines. Just too much carbon build up and eventual engine issues.
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So the touring trim which I really like regarding the tech features and ventilated seats etc has one major fail. Minivan captains chairs only in the 2nd row! WTF!!! So I cant seat 5 and pack the back full of gear? Which is exactly what I do with my Sequoia and my Outback. Which I would probably sell both and get a Ascent Touring if it had the 8pass seat layout.

Im truly amazed Subaru thought the touring trim should only be offered in the van format with captians chairs.

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Wonder if the 2.4 Turbo will be the engine used in the 2020 Outback re-design! That beats the 3.6R numbers and probably has a wall of torque behind it from 1500-2000 RPMs on up. That would be interesting.
I would think that the H-6 is gone in the next gen Outback, because of the expense of keeping it around for just one model.

But I'd like to know if they left enough room in the Ascent (and in the new global platform) for possible retrofit of an H-6.

The 2.4 turbo is a new engine, so it either it can be developed later for more power, or maybe complemented with a hybrid setup. Whatever, I'm an H-6 fan, and can't quite imagine a turbo 4 being quite as smooth or satisfying, no matter what the specs say on paper. But we'll know more when there are Ascents available to drive.
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I will be surprised if it comes tuned for 87 octane. Other automakers have went that route without too much success. Especially with direct injection engines. Just too much carbon build up and eventual engine issues.
The 2.0 XT Forester has been able to run 87+ since it came out in 2014.
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The 2.0 XT Forester has been able to run 87+ since it came out in 2014.
"Able" I think that could be said for most turbo 4s who's owner's manuals recommend higher octane fuel.
Usually the manual says you may experience ping and reduced power if running 87 octane. I think it might be more about emissions.
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So the touring trim which I really like regarding the tech features and ventilated seats etc has one major fail. Minivan captains chairs only in the 2nd row! WTF!!! So I cant seat 5 and pack the back full of gear? Which is exactly what I do with my Sequoia and my Outback. Which I would probably sell both and get a Ascent Touring if it had the 8pass seat layout.

Im truly amazed Subaru thought the touring trim should only be offered in the van format with captians chairs.

Grrrr
on the official listings they list it as seating for 7 or 8. (today and in the past).

and it looks like 7= 2 captains chairs on the 2nd row as is always in the show cars.

8 seats = bench on the 2nd row. as per:

https://www.consumerreports.org/suvs...uv-sized-hole/

(and I thought there maybe some narrow insert hooked onto the captains chairs such that would be used for a child or baby seat.)

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"Able" I think that could be said for most turbo 4s who's owner's manuals recommend higher octane fuel.
Usually the manual says you may experience ping and reduced power if running 87 octane. I think it might be more about emissions.
It's gonna ping like a b*tch. But then all Subi motors do.


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