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I'm pretty certain my carrier bearing had failed, car is at 163k miles. I have a lot of play in the rubber bushing itself. I know these are technically not servicable. My local driveshaft shop just wants to sell me a new assembly. I am just wondering if anyone else has had failures with this. Only under low speed up to about 25mph with hard acceleration do I feel it vibrate heavily. Also wondering what's considered in spec play for them. Car is a 2005 outback, vdc limited(3.0r).

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Yes they fail. Yes I've seen it. Replace the driveshaft or talk to a driveshaft specialist.
They fail rarely enough that used is a common and reasonable option.


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I'm pretty certain my carrier bearing had failed, car is at 163k miles. I have a lot of play in the rubber bushing itself. I know these are technically not servicable. My local driveshaft shop just wants to sell me a new assembly. I am just wondering if anyone else has had failures with this. Only under low speed up to about 25mph with hard acceleration do I feel it vibrate heavily. Also wondering what's considered in spec play for them. Car is a 2005 outback, vdc limited(3.0r).
I have read of folks having driveline repair shops replace the u joints and carrier bearings with success. Even though it's a hit to the billfold, I'd go ahead and get a replacement. Chances are once the driveshaft is out, the front u joint will show some binding spots when rotated at a high angle. I think I paid arount $375 for mine.

While they have the driveshaft off, it would be a good time to have someone to push upward on the tailshaft of the tranny to look for a broken transmission mount. Then H6 has some issues with those.
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I'm pretty certain my carrier bearing had failed, car is at 163k miles. I have a lot of play in the rubber bushing itself. I know these are technically not servicable. My local driveshaft shop just wants to sell me a new assembly. I am just wondering if anyone else has had failures with this. Only under low speed up to about 25mph with hard acceleration do I feel it vibrate heavily. Also wondering what's considered in spec play for them. Car is a 2005 outback, vdc limited(3.0r).
I have read of folks having driveline repair shops replace the u joints and carrier bearings with success. Even though it's a hit to the billfold, I'd go ahead and get a replacement. Chances are once the driveshaft is out, the front u joint will show some binding spots when rotated at a high angle. I think I paid arount $375 for mine.

While they have the driveshaft off, it would be a good time to have someone to push upward on the tailshaft of the tranny to look for a broken transmission mount. Then H6 has some issues with those.
Yeah I've checked the trans mount because subaru dealer wrote it up after the air bag recall, I couldn't get it to budge. Looks like I'm gonna shell out $400 for a new drive shaft. Getting a Dorman one with lifetime warranty. Do you know if those are any good? Sucks because last week I just spent $600 on tires.
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Yeah I've checked the trans mount because subaru dealer wrote it up after the air bag recall, I couldn't get it to budge. Looks like I'm gonna shell out $400 for a new drive shaft. Getting a Dorman one with lifetime warranty. Do you know if those are any good? Sucks because last week I just spent $600 on tires.
You have to get some leverage with a prybar or if its on a lift you can push upward.

Dorman parts are typically a middle of the road company. If it has a lifetime warranty, you shouldn't have to worry. You'll know if the balance is right once it's installed!

Those unexpected expenses do suck but I look at it as - at least I'm not making a monthly car payment!

You should probably jack each wheel off the ground and check to see if you have any play in the bearings, especially with the new tires. If the bearings check good, you may want to put an all wheel alignment on the to do list.
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You have to get some leverage with a prybar or if its on a lift you can push upward.

Dorman parts are typically a middle of the road company. If it has a lifetime warranty, you shouldn't have to worry. You'll know if the balance is right once it's installed!

Those unexpected expenses do suck but I look at it as - at least I'm not making a monthly car payment!

You should probably jack each wheel off the ground and check to see if you have any play in the bearings, especially with the new tires. If the bearings check good, you may want to put an all wheel alignment on the to do list.[/QUOTE] well I am making a monthly car payment haha. I'm doing an alignment this summer. Going to replace all the rear end bushings and put the whiteline ones in for the camber adjustment. I have a press. When I swapped my winter rims out I didnt find any play in the bearings. Hopefully they'll make a little noise before they go. Just as a reference I'm a heavy duty diesel technician. I can do anything on my cars I need. I was hoping to be able to rebuild the drive shaft but, found no parts available.
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You have to get some leverage with a prybar or if its on a lift you can push upward.

Dorman parts are typically a middle of the road company. If it has a lifetime warranty, you shouldn't have to worry. You'll know if the balance is right once it's installed!

Those unexpected expenses do suck but I look at it as - at least I'm not making a monthly car payment!

You should probably jack each wheel off the ground and check to see if you have any play in the bearings, especially with the new tires. If the bearings check good, you may want to put an all wheel alignment on the to do list.
well I am making a monthly car payment haha. I'm doing an alignment this summer. Going to replace all the rear end bushings and put the whiteline ones in for the camber adjustment. I have a press. When I swapped my winter rims out I didnt find any play in the bearings. Hopefully they'll make a little noise before they go. Just as a reference I'm a heavy duty diesel technician. I can do anything on my cars I need. I was hoping to be able to rebuild the drive shaft but, found no parts available.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I have a good friend who runs a driveline business and he told me by the time he found the parts and swapped them out he'd have more in it than I could buy it for new.

If you have questions about how to set up the suspension, you should contact @traildogck. He's very knowledgeable on suspensions!
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I had those warning signs, mine failed--FAST. Order one ASAP. It was soon shaking so bad I had to park it.
There is no acceptable play really. When they start to wobble they self destruct.

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I had those warning signs, mine failed--FAST. Order one ASAP. It was soon shaking so bad I had to park it.
There is no acceptable play really. When they start to wobble they self destruct.
Yeah that's what I've seen on big rigs. They tend though to have quite a bit of play before it becomes an issue. Just was hoping someone might have a temp fix. Just gonna get that Dorman one next week. Gf just drives it right now about 10 min away if she needs something.
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Yeah I've checked the trans mount because subaru dealer wrote it up after the air bag recall, I couldn't get it to budge. Looks like I'm gonna shell out $400 for a new drive shaft. Getting a Dorman one with lifetime warranty. Do you know if those are any good? Sucks because last week I just spent $600 on tires.
I wouldn't get that. Admittedly driveshafts don't fail often enough that we have any meaningful data to go on, but there's not much chance of this choice being the best if it was repeated 100 times and compared to the same done for other options.

"lifetime warranty" on aftermarket parts often means they're utilizing your resources (labor/time) for warranty coverage, it is absolutely not an indication of quality but a bartering arrangement between price point and your resources.

Spend $100 more and get it from Subaru or a custom 1 piece aluminum shaft with no carrier bearing:
The Driveshaft Shop | 2005 Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT 1-Piece Aluminum Driveshaft (5 Speed Automatic ONLY) - Subaru - Import Driveshafts

https://www.subarupartsdeal.com/part...r-shaft,,27111

or get a low mile used one with good ujoints and carrier for $150. Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market
for 2004 and earlier models this is a great option because they dont' fail often enough to worry about - there's 100 other parts with higher failure rates that should be more concerning. i'm not sure if i'm seeing more 05-09 driveshaft failures because they fail more or just Subaru's sales increases are increasing the prominence of those vehicles but it does seem more common on 05-09's...but that's just all anecdotal...


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