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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-23-2015, 09:30 AM Thread Starter
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Side mirror adjustment

Is it just me or does every car ever made artificially create a blind spot by not allowing mirrors to be adjusted far enough out?

Plenty of adjustment for me to admire the side of my car. When i try to adjust it out to see a motorcycle in my blind spot, it wont go far enough.

Fancy electronic blind spot detection? Yup. Simple free design change to enhance safety? Not on this car or any other Subaru I have owned.

Am I missing somethings? Creating all these advanced safety features took people much smarter than me, so I must be missing something. Right?

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I don't think the limited mirror travel (stops just short of useful) is a problem with all cars, just the Outback.

I've never owned another car where the mirrors would not travel far enough outward to watch the blindspot. First thing I noticed on the Outback.

I intend to pop the mirror out of the casing (which I'll be doing anyway when I get the auto-dimming ones) and find whether the limit is mechanical obstruction or a function of the servo motor. If the former, I'll be doing some creative grinding ;-0

To your other point, I think things like this are now common engineering/design faults. Everyone is so hung up on gizmos and the technology used to implement them, the basic usage requirements are lost or done poorly. This is particularly true with human interfaces.

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Most vehicles, including these Outbacks, have a great amount of adjustability. Some of it is manual, not just electronic.
The mirrors swivel around inside the housing by pushing on the mirror.

1. Using the joystick, electronically move the mirrors to a central point of aim (** see note 1).
2. Now, using your fingers on the mirror, push the outside edge of the mirror, hopefully it still has more adjustability for you. When/if it moves, it will make a somewhat noisy ratcheting/clicking sound, this is normal.

The electronic joystick movement will still work after this procedure.

NOTE1...
if the mirrors are already electronically swiveled to the most outward aiming point, the mirrors will NOT be able to be moved any further outward by pushing with your fingers.
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haven't noticed this problem, but maybe gds' explaination is why: someone moved (or didn't move) the mirror around on the electric swivel thing.

car still has move of a blind spot than i'd like, but i don't see the car itself in the mirrors unless i move my head.
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I just tried the procedure and it did move to the left. I did hear the clicking sound (ugh!).
I moved it two clicks then used the joystick to move it back all the way left.

It's hard to tell when not in traffic if that has made a difference so will check on way home tonight.

But I do notice that when moving the joystick left, when it reaches it's limit, it clicked and judders.
It's like the motor will allow the movement left, but something is stopping it.

I suspect the two clicks I heard when I used the joystick to move it left, are the same two clicks I heard moving it manually.
Perhaps I just 'un-did' what I did manually.

I can play with this now I know that it's safe to move the mirror by hand within it's housing.
Thanks for the help.
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Well DUH! -- I may be wrong but I think all "standard" vehicles (what that means-- I don't know) are susceptible to a blind spot on the side mirrors. My 02 F-150 has it --(I added those little round mirror thingeys), and my 89 Toyota Camry has it. The camry-- I have to strain my neck and actually turn my head (which the law in Mo. says you have to.
I really don't think the manufacturers do this on purpose -- IT'S JUST PHYSICS AND OPTICS -- You have to turn your head -to "KNOW FOR SURE"
The blind spot detection system just makes it easier , if one gets lazy
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My OB is the first vehicle I have had where I wish the mirror would go out a little more to the left, which would eliminate the blind spot.

I will try the suggestion tomorrow of pushing it a little more left by hand.

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I just bought a 2016 Forester and the driver's side mirror will not adjust outward enough so that I do not see the side of my car. I even bought a blindspot mirror to clip on the mirror housing and it still does not point outward enough.

I am about ready to disassemble the whole thing to see WTF is going on inside.

anybody else have the same problem?

solutions?
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I added those little round mirror thingeys),
My Chevy Equinox came with that. IMO, all cars should have it. In any event, the driver side mirror goes out far enough for me,
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