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This is a good reminder as to why it is prudent to carry a small fire extinguisher in your car.

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One has to be careful about taking one's personal experience and extrapolating it to all other situations.
Sorry, it wasn't my intent to trivialize forensic investigations. In our case, I'm sure the insurance company's investigator (whose name you probably would recognize, given your location) had done a lot of background grunt work before he ever showed up on-site ... including pro-forma criminal and financial background checks.


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To be clear: I am entirely sympathetic to the situation the OP finds himself in: no car, loss of some belongings, apparently no rental car coverage once he was paid off, lots of hassles filing claims, etc. I myself almost lost my 2008 while it was parked at a trail head that burned over while we were out mountain climbing, and in fact in trying to pack out and avoid the fire we got in a bad place and had to run away with full overnight packs so as not to be overcome by the moving fire front. I can tell you that it is a very scary, emotional, adrenaline rush sort of thing when you believe there's a good chance you might not come out alive in a situation and just have to do what you have to do.

What I object to, and I think many here do also, is the title of the post and the tone of the original report that the OP believes he is somehow owed much more, and the demand for blood from SOA. The three significant points that most posters have made regarding this are:

(1) he wasn't injured, nor was his family,

(2) he's already been made whole, and

(3) if there's anyone who has a dog in this fight, it's not him, it's the insurer(s) who paid the claim, retired the loan, and compensated for the loan's gap coverage - should they wish to do so.

I think this forum might have an interest in learning of any systemic issues existing with this Gen 5 model series that may have contributed, should there be something really going on here. And the NHTSA website provides a sober, methodical way to report any such findings from their investigation. But I don't think there are any issues; we're now into the fourth year of this series, and the sales numbers are significant relative to this one incident that I'm now aware of. We certainly would have already heard about it if there were.

It was just an unfortunate, isolated incident. And that's all.
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To the OP, I am sorry to hear what you must be going through. It is upsetting. But at least you are all safe and unharmed. Itís unfortunate but car fires do happen. In the late 1970ís I was driving my first car, and came upon a VW micro bus with the backend in flames on the side of the road. Sitting in the drivers seat was an older woman who was clearly upset and trying to restart her bus. I ran up and told her that she needs to get out. She insisted that she must get it started and drive it home as her husband would be mad as this is his favorite car. I had to literally grab her arm and drag her out as she was so distraught. By the time police and fire arrived, the VW was totally engulfed. At the time, I didnít carry a fire extinguisher as the most important tool for me was a bottle opener. So no matter what causes car fires, it is upsetting when one happens. Iím sorry for your loss.


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To be clear: I am entirely sympathetic to the situation the OP finds himself in: no car, loss of some belongings, apparently no rental car coverage once he was paid off, lots of hassles filing claims, etc. I myself almost lost my 2008 while it was parked at a trail head that burned over while we were out mountain climbing, and in fact in trying to pack out and avoid the fire we got in a bad place and had to run away with full overnight packs so as not to be overcome by the moving fire front. I can tell you that it is a very scary, emotional, adrenaline rush sort of thing when you believe there's a good chance you might not come out alive in a situation and just have to do what you have to do.

What I object to, and I think many here do also, is the title of the post and the tone of the original report that the OP believes he is somehow owed much more, and the demand for blood from SOA. The three significant points that most posters have made regarding this are:

(1) he wasn't injured, nor was his family,

(2) he's already been made whole, and

(3) if there's anyone who has a dog in this fight, it's not him, it's the insurer(s) who paid the claim, retired the loan, and compensated for the loan's gap coverage - should they wish to do so.

I think this forum might have an interest in learning of any systemic issues existing with this Gen 5 model series that may have contributed, should there be something really going on here. And the NHTSA website provides a sober, methodical way to report any such findings from their investigation. But I don't think there are any issues; we're now into the fourth year of this series, and the sales numbers are significant relative to this one incident that I'm now aware of. We certainly would have already heard about it if there were.

It was just an unfortunate, isolated incident. And that's all.
I don't disagree with anything you said.
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Clearly this is just a case of expectations being too high. This must have been a 2.5i Outback and everyone knows you can't expect to pass a semi tractor trailer at highway speeds and get all the way by without it catching on fire.
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Clearly this is just a case of expectations being too high. This must have been a 2.5i Outback and everyone knows you can't expect to pass a semi tractor trailer at highway speeds and get all the way by without it catching on fire.
LOL, I want to hear what warranty coverage the OP is expecting from a vehicle that is no longer his, unless of course he is an advocate for the insurance company that now owns the car.

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It really is not ever going to be a warranty issue, but to the extent it was caused a defective part failure, more of a defective product/product liability tort claim.
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My guess is that it was garbage or other materials that got stuck in the undercarriage and ignited on the catalytic converter. Or it could be a defective build item or component. That happens all the time regardless of car make.

That could easily damage other components and possibly set a fire. I haven't heard of any other incidents where an Outback has self combusted, so I think it's irresponsible to lay the blame at Subaru's feet this early in the game.

Would I be sad to see my car burn to the ground? Sure, but insurance would pay for it and I'd buy another model of the same car. I certainly wouldn't throw a tantrum and throw the baby out with the bath water. Calm, reason, and logical investigation would be the way to go, rather than incite a flame war and call for a boycott, that's ridiculous.


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