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post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-14-2018, 03:00 PM
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Can the ts508 also reprogram using the stock Subaru sensors on 2018s? I have a set of snows with rims and Oem sensors. Subaru wants an arm and a leg to reprogram and discount tire is a zoo this time of year.
From what I read in the literature, it should be able to do it. I'll be doing that in the spring when I put my factory wheels back on. The aftermarket OEM sensors I bought are supposed to be functional equivalents of the OEM sensors. So it should work.

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For anyone out there that is interested you could also use the older version of this tool, THe Autel TS-501, also currently available new and equally capable. They are somewhere around $235 on amazon and maybe elsewhere.

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Can the ts508 also reprogram using the stock Subaru sensors on 2018s? I have a set of snows with rims and Oem sensors. Subaru wants an arm and a leg to reprogram and discount tire is a zoo this time of year.
Yes, the Autel will read the sensor ID from each wheel and then allow you to load that into your car's computer. The Autel scanners will read codes of all brands of TPMS sensors, aftermarket or Subaru. The Autel is only capable of programming their own brand of TPMS sensors for cloning purposes.

The reprogram relearn procedure will take 5 minutes from start to finish.
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Also buy an Autel TS508 TPMS tool.
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Believe it or not, everything went smoothly, at least as far as TPMS is concerned.

Step 1: I bought a new TS508 from Tire Rack. ...

The [Firmware] values updated were:
  • Sys from V1.19 --> V1.70
  • HW V1.00
  • Sens from V5.42 --> V5.53
  • Vehicle from V1.41 --> V1.53
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The latest version of the firmware for the Autel TS508 tool can read stock and aftermarket sensors and write the values to the ECU. So victory!

And, the TS508 is pretty reasonably priced: I got mine for $275 + tax at Tire Rack. They also make a kit that comes with 8 programmable (clonable) sensors (4 x 315 MHz, 4 x 433 MHz) for $320.
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Good luck if you're taking on a similar project.
Thank you for posting about the "Make a kit" option. I just ordered the kit, with free delivery (of course) next day to my door.

I really appreciate you posting about your successes.

Gives me confidence I can correct a TPMS problem on my '16 OB using this tool.

If it cannot fix the problem, there is only one other TPMS tool by Autel, the TS608, that can fix my TPMS problem. That's a pro-level tool and outside my price range ($575 @ tirerack.com). It is also a tool a local shop's TPMS specialist has in his toolbox if the need arises.

The 4 sensors I can use as the OEM TPMS units fail or get damaged over time nearly pay for the kit.

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Glad it helps. My 2016 was much easier to deal with - if you intend on cloning the sensor IDs then the 508 (or the older 501) should work. But I could change sensor IDs on my 2016 with the older TS401 tool and the ATEQ Quickset. You can probably find those tools cheaper, but they can't program the sensors themselves with cloned IDs. See this older thread for how I did this on my '16: https://www.subaruoutback.org/forums...ml#post4420505


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Sorry, haven't been active on this board in a while. I'm happy to hear that this is finally resolved (nice documentation, GrumpySquatch), and glad to hear that some of my prior research was helpful.

A year ago I added an Autel TS-408 to supplement my 2011 vintage ATEQ Quickset. While Autel finally updated their software to include coverage for the 2018 Outback late last summer (and I tested it by pinging a co-workers 2018 Outback), ATEQ has been slow at doing the same. Fortunately for me, I still drive a 2014 so don't need the full suite, but it's disappointing that ATEQ is over a year behind now.

Autel makes great, low cost tools. I only paid $115 for the 408 in 2017, but still wish I could have afforded a single tool solution at the time. Last year the 508 was around $400, and a little too rich for me. At $275 today it's a no-brainer, especially with 3 cars and 12 snow tires in my garage.

My intention is to generate clone sensors going forward, so that this eventually becomes a tool-less seasonal changeover. The only downside of the Autel system is that it's a walled garden. If you own a 408 or 508 and want to make clones, you must buy Autel's sensors. Bartec and most other tool makers are more expensive up front but universal, and can program a wide variety of blank programmable sensor brands. So the next big test will be for someone to buy Autel MX-sensors and see if they can successfully write the full protocol, and if the 2018/2019 Outback can 'see' and apply them.

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Thank you for this.

Thank you for this. I'm working on my 2009 Outback to develop cloned Schrader 33500's for the snow wheels, and this was quite helpful. That Autel TS508 looks like a very nice tool.

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Got my kit from ADAP during the week and fixed the TPMS warning on the 17 OB today. The tool updated painlessly and scanned and updated sensor info from the snow tire/wheel combo to the ECU. After clearing the DTC, there was no TPMS warning lamp on. Drove around a bit, and all is well. Excellent tool! The parameters on the TS508 after updates are as follows:
1. Sys software version: V1.21
2. H/W version: V1.00 (same)
3. Sensor version: V5.55
4. Vehicle version: V1.54
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THanks for the guide, worked great!

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Picked up the TS508K (TS508 with 8 MX sensors) from Advanceauto for $254.39 after tax, free shipping. Used the 25% off coupon from retailmenot and got $80 off the list of $319. I had to use the Opera browser in order for the order to work properly for some strange reason.

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