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post #21 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-15-2018, 08:23 AM Thread Starter
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Checked on one you recommended and not sold anywhere near me (I’m in northern ca). I assume I could buy it and have it shipped but no idea who I would have install it. Any suggestions?

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Wanted to share my experience with an after market RS.
I had been debating about getting a RS for my 2017 OB 3.6R and I was leaning towards the OEM unit which my local dealer has been advertising as a special for $499 installed.

But I was swayed by the Compustar CS4905-KIT which was offered for an installed price of $249.99 on Bestbuy.com.
I was intrigued by the long range claim of 3000 ft and a digital 2-way remote which indicates the successful remote starting of your vehicle. I ordered the kit and I went into my local BB to interview the AUTOTECH installer to find out how much experience and my comfort in handing over the car to them. The BB installer informed me that the CS4905 kit is the latest version and it is meant to use a T-Harness during the installation process, this means that if a T-Harness is made for your vehicle - then it is pure plug and play without any splicing of wires. Unfortunately there is no T-Harness for any Subaru; they must be hard-wired meaning that they will splice wires. I felt comfortable enough with the installer that I made an appointment for my installation before the kit arrived. Here in the NE, the RS installs are filling up BBs calendar fast.

I had the kit installed today - they quoted me 3.5 hrs and it was pretty much dead on when they called to tell me that my vehicle was done. Here are the main highlights of the install:
1) The kit came with 2 remote starters fobs - one is 2-way and the other is 1-way - Haven't tested the long range
2) My original keyless fob (push button start) is now recognized as another RS fob -
press lock-unlock-lock within 5 secs and the car will start up - shutdown is the same sequence
3) RS fobs have Lock, Unlock, Tailgate and Start buttons - Tailgate can also be opened/close with these fobs
4) Vehicle stays running even after door is opened - need to have Subaru fob on me and press brake pedal and RS will hand off control to your vehicle
5) I had asked to have the rear defrosted activated with the RS - They programmed it to start and stay on for 15 mins AND being that the system is digital - They chose to activate only at 32 or below.

Quite pleased with the results and savings as well.

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Wanted to share my experience with an after market RS.
I had been debating about getting a RS for my 2017 OB 3.6R and I was leaning towards the OEM unit which my local dealer has been advertising as a special for $499 installed.

But I was swayed by the Compustar CS4905-KIT which was offered for an installed price of $249.99 on Bestbuy.com.
I was intrigued by the long range claim of 3000 ft and a digital 2-way remote which indicates the successful remote starting of your vehicle. I ordered the kit and I went into my local BB to interview the AUTOTECH installer to find out how much experience and my comfort in handing over the car to them. The BB installer informed me that the CS4905 kit is the latest version and it is meant to use a T-Harness during the installation process, this means that if a T-Harness is made for your vehicle - then it is pure plug and play without any splicing of wires. Unfortunately there is no T-Harness for any Subaru; they must be hard-wired meaning that they will splice wires. I felt comfortable enough with the installer that I made an appointment for my installation before the kit arrived. Here in the NE, the RS installs are filling up BBs calendar fast.

I had the kit installed today - they quoted me 3.5 hrs and it was pretty much dead on when they called to tell me that my vehicle was done. Here are the main highlights of the install:
1) The kit came with 2 remote starters fobs - one is 2-way and the other is 1-way - Haven't tested the long range
2) My original keyless fob (push button start) is now recognized as another RS fob -
press lock-unlock-lock within 5 secs and the car will start up - shutdown is the same sequence
3) RS fobs have Lock, Unlock, Tailgate and Start buttons - Tailgate can also be opened/close with these fobs
4) Vehicle stays running even after door is opened - need to have Subaru fob on me and press brake pedal and RS will hand off control to your vehicle
5) I had asked to have the rear defrosted activated with the RS - They programmed it to start and stay on for 15 mins AND being that the system is digital - They chose to activate only at 32 or below.

Quite pleased with the results and savings as well.

Interested in this setup.
How does the RS work after starting?
1- Meaning does it lock the doors if they were unlocked upon Remote starting?

2- When walking up to car with the oem fob does the touch handle unlock the car ?

3- Car stays running ?

4- after entering the car, what is the next step b4 drive off? Pressing the start stop button ?

5- does pressing the brake before pressing the start stop button kill the engine ?

Thx!!
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Interested in this setup.
How does the RS work after starting?
1- Meaning does it lock the doors if they were unlocked upon Remote starting?
The cars doors are locked first before the RS attempts to start the car

2- When walking up to car with the oem fob does the touch handle unlock the car ?
Yes - for my 3.6R with push button start - One can reach behind the handle and the car door will unlock

3- Car stays running ?
Yes - The car remains running for the programmed time interval (I went with the default of 15 minutes)

4- after entering the car, what is the next step b4 drive off? Pressing the start stop button ? Press on the brake and the RS system will transfer control to the vehicle ECU and you can shift out of Park into D and drive away

5- does pressing the brake before pressing the start stop button kill the engine ?
Not sure if I understand your question. If the car has been RS started there is no need to press the Start/Stop button.

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I cannot stress enough that one must interview the AUTOTECH at BestBuy to make sure you are comfortable with their experience/skill and confidence before doing the installation.
Not all TECHs have the experience/skill nor confidence and you wouldn't want one to butcher the wiring on your Subaru. If you don't feel comfortable, go to another BestBuy to repeat the interview process and if you don't get the warm and fuzzy feeling - you can simply return the RS kit and get your money back.
Lastly Bestbuy gives you lifetime warranty on the labor, so if you should have any issues - you can bring it back to them.
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Thx for answering my questions.
A lot of factory RS systems let you in the car, but if u press the brake the car turns off. You must first press the start stop button while the car is running in remote start mode......That’s when it switches to normal run mode. If you press the brake upon entering it turns off.
So with the compustar system, it’s opposite. Press the brake like you would when shifting out of park and it’s ready to go.
Wonder what happens if you press the brake but don’t have the factory fob in the car with you?
Also how far do u think the factory fob will start the car from ?
I hate the idea of having 2 big fobs ......
Lastly it looks like it’s $489 at Best Buy now, not $289
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The transfer of control from the Compustar RS system to the vehicle ECU is predicated on the oem factory fob being on you. I believe that I was told that if I pressed on the brake and I don't have the fob the car will shut off.

The range for the factory fob will be exactly the same as what they are currently for you when unlocking the doors/rear gate. No more no less.

Bestbuy has been putting the Compustar system on sale since the middle of October - I originally bought one for $269 to have installed on my wife's 2018 Forester and my local BB did a fantastic job. That is why I bought a 2nd unit for $249 when it went on sale on 11/10. On the Forester install they didn't set the rear defroster to turn on when the car was RS...I made an appt and took it back - They fixed it without any labor charge. Also due to the newer and smarter "brain" of the CS4905 kit - there were no additional parts needed !!

I believe that Bestbuy will be putting the CS4905 kit on sale periodically during the colder season.
If you see it for under $300 - Just Buy it - you can always return it as long as it hasn't been installed !!
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Thx for answering my questions.
A lot of factory RS systems let you in the car, but if u press the brake the car turns off. You must first press the start stop button while the car is running in remote start mode......That’s when it switches to normal run mode. If you press the brake upon entering it turns off.
So with the compustar system, it’s opposite. Press the brake like you would when shifting out of park and it’s ready to go.
Wonder what happens if you press the brake but don’t have the factory fob in the car with you?
Also how far do u think the factory fob will start the car from ?
I hate the idea of having 2 big fobs ......
Lastly it looks like it’s $489 at Best Buy now, not $289
For reference - In our new Titan, you press lock button on the fob and release it. Within a couple of seconds, you press and hold the remote start button on the fob down for @2 to 3 seconds and the truck fires up. With a key fob in close proximity, you can push on the door handle proximity switch and the door opens etc. After getting in, if you only press the push to start button on the truck, it shuts off. However, if you push the brake pedal, then the push to start button on the truck, you can drive off. The BBY installed system described above appears to function reasonably well. I might look into this, but install myself on our 17 OB.

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Good Luck if you choose to do the install yourself.

However I don't think it is an easy project - A few obstacles to consider:
1) You need to program the "black box" or brain of the CS4905 kit - I'm not certain if you need special software
2) There is no T-Harness that is made for any Subaru vehicle and as such you must be comfortable with splicing into existing wires. The Tech at BBY told me that the wires are especially tightly wound on Subaru vehicles
3) Not certain if you can buy the CS4905 system other than at BBY

I've found the "older" unit CS4900 available on Amazon and Ebay. The CS4900 might require additional relays in order to perform the function of activating the rear defroster. The CS4905 did not need any additional parts for both my Subaru vehicles.

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My dealership is such a (fill in the blank) I wouldn't dare add an aftermarket starter. For the money, I'm not that impressed with the OEM unit.

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