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Honestly, you can't go too far wrong when you buy vehicles made by Toyota, Subaru or Honda. Hmmmm.... our last 6 purchases: Subaru (2), Toyota (2), Honda (2).

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LOL....hard to understand the mind set of many buyers these days. Seems the most important thing to them when selecting a car is whether or not it supports a buggy phone app.
I mean I am in the same boat where I don't care too much about infotainment tech, but the majority of car buyers are get me to point A to point B please with zero problems. I can understand why car companies try to boast about their infotainment tech to consumers. It's a big part of their purchasing decision is my guess.

I mean I still have my CD case from high school in my car just in case so.

I am just a low tech user in cars, I do use apple car play and bluetooth because I am a heavy music oriented person, but thats about it. I don't think I have used a voice control feature once since I have driven a car and I certain have not used any other app besides google maps and spotify.

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Why are you plugging in the phone, I've only ever plugged in to charge, never for phone, music.....

I need to plug in the phone for Google maps and Waze. So if I am using the built in TomTom guidance I do not plug in; but for long trips or even some local destinations I prefer to use Google with Waze and that requires the phone be connected with a USB cable.
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I guess a fact could be like this -

One car I talk to hardly ever understands commands
The other car most always understands commands

I have to laugh out our one cars navigation. It says things like, please turn right. Please?
Soon I might her Hal 9000 telling me what to do.

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Like everything else in this world it is just your opinion. As I reviewed from your prior posts you definitely have them but very little facts.

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My 2016 car has a built in CD player and I was pleased to see it. Cutting edge stuff?


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I mean I am in the same boat where I don't care too much about infotainment tech, but the majority of car buyers are get me to point A to point B please with zero problems. I can understand why car companies try to boast about their infotainment tech to consumers. It's a big part of their purchasing decision is my guess.

I mean I still have my CD case from high school in my car just in case so.

I am just a low tech user in cars, I do use apple car play and bluetooth because I am a heavy music oriented person, but thats about it. I don't think I have used a voice control feature once since I have driven a car and I certain have not used any other app besides google maps and spotify.
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Choosing a car based on it's infotainment system is like choosing a girlfriend based on the size of her... err...um... feet.
Except that her... err...um... feet will not be hopelessly obsolete in 5 to 10 years.

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I can understand why car companies try to boast about their infotainment tech to consumers. It's a big part of their purchasing decision is my guess.
The majority of new car buyers these days are buying appliances. They don't understand engines, or transmissions, or all-wheel drive, or antilock braking, or vehicle dynamics control, or safety oriented driver-assist technology, etc., etc.; they just expect it all to work when needed (whenever that may be). But they do think they understand electronics and entertainment stuff, so that's what they tend to focus on. Hyundai/Kia got that right.

Consider on this forum alone how many owners you see "upgrading" their lighting, wheels, tires, suspension, etc. solely for cosmetic reasons. Usually, they have not a clue about how their mods will affect safety, handling, mechanical reliability, or performance ... and they don't really care.
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Except that her... err...um... feet will not be hopelessly obsolete in 5 to 10 years.
Some seem to think they need regular updates, too!
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I had a 2018 Honda Accord Sport and had to trade it in after 3 months because of the multiple quality control issues to include the screen going black when playing playlists.


Went back to Subaru with a 19 Outback 3.6R after previously having a 15 Legacy and 13 Outback. Never should have left.


Learned my lesson to not buy the first year of a complete redesign which is what the Accord was.
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How many people are remaining that can work on the basic mechanical things in an engine bay?
Fixing things and being able to fix things is a dying breed. My big garage that is full of tools is something that some friends will envy but most will think it is crazy. While kidding my one friend about he himself never fixing anything said, "I make a lot of money and pay other people to fix things." Ok...I get that but to me, it just seems weird not having the skills to do for myself. A dying breed I tell-ya.

I'm buying a townhouse for my son and girlfriend to live in and it is kind of like what a real estate agent said today. Looking at the parking situation I remarked, can they even wash and vacuum their own cars. Agent says, they need to take them to a car wash. So many people living in the same situation can can't even wash their own cars.

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Except that her... err...um... feet will not be hopelessly obsolete in 5 to 10 years.


The majority of new car buyers these days are buying appliances. They don't understand engines, or transmissions, or all-wheel drive, or antilock braking, or vehicle dynamics control, or safety oriented driver-assist technology, etc., etc.; they just expect it all to work when needed (whenever that may be). But they do think they understand electronics and entertainment stuff, so that's what they tend to focus on. Hyundai/Kia got that right.

Consider on this forum alone how many owners you see "upgrading" their lighting, wheels, tires, suspension, etc. solely for cosmetic reasons. Usually, they have not a clue about how their mods will affect safety, handling, mechanical reliability, or performance ... and they don't really care.
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How many people are remaining that can work on the basic mechanical things in an engine bay?
Fixing things and being able to fix things is a dying breed. My big garage that is full of tools is something that some friends will envy but most will think it is crazy. While kidding my one friend about he himself never fixing anything said, "I make a lot of money and pay other people to fix things." Ok...I get that but to me, it just seems weird not having the skills to do for myself. A dying breed I tell-ya.

I used to do all my own wrenching when I was a poor teen and college student. Clutches. Brake jobs. Tune-ups. Exhaust systems. Lots of body work to repair road salt corrosion. On my Outback, I replace the engine air filter & cabin air filter and that's it.

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