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post #141 of 177 (permalink) Old 04-17-2019, 08:29 PM Thread Starter
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Great video @Brucey - I really liked the video examples showing the difference in the AWD/traction control systems, very informational.
Thanks!

I tried my best to make a boring subject entertaining.

Hence all the work that went into that one.

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My personal opinion: when the call is made for rapid acceleration, the artificial shift points appear because the peak HP is reached at a different RPM than peak torque, and maximum acceleration is accomplished by continuing to allow the RPM to increase to peak HP. If the CVT maintains a consistent RPM, you have not reached maximum power, and therefore maximum acceleration.


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I miss three pedals hence why I hate the CVT.
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My personal opinion: when the call is made for rapid acceleration, the artificial shift points appear because the peak HP is reached at a different RPM than peak torque, and maximum acceleration is accomplished by continuing to allow the RPM to increase to peak HP. If the CVT maintains a consistent RPM, you have not reached maximum power, and therefore maximum acceleration.
get your car tuned and add a dry filter XRT viciously tuned engine and cvt for fast shifting from Barbados. He can take the factory restrictions off and give you what you want ! i did it and love my 2015 legacy 3.6 . I now get 33 mpg with 93 octane on the highway at 55 and 24 mpg in the city


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get your car tuned and add a dry filter XRT viciously tuned engine and cvt for fast shifting from Barbados. He can take the factory restrictions off and give you what you want ! i did it and love my 2015 legacy 3.6 . I now get 33 mpg with 93 octane on the highway at 55 and 24 mpg in the city
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https://www.subaruoutback.org/forums...d.php?t=398490

Had asked about this^ but I got the answers I was looking for.
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I miss three pedals hence why I hate the CVT.
I think this is completely valid.

If you don't like automatics you won't like a CVT.

But this thread is meant for the "5EAT never fails and the CVT always does" group.

Hopefully I've changed a mind or two at this point.

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Hey Brucey what say you about the XRT mod ?

Also I thought they was a way to disengage the fake shift points ?
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Hey Brucey what say you about the XRT mod ?

Also I thought they was a way to disengage the fake shift points ?
It did totally help road handling. Faster. Firmer shifts.

However it seemed to interfere with X Mode.

So I've been running stock for over a year now.
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Thanks brucey
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Some people don't like the droning/motorboat feeling so Subaru added fake shifts in so now some people don't like the fake shifts. They can't win.
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wait...hold up.

Ok admittedly I havent been on this board a TON in the past several years. I have my 2013 - CVT - and from the start - I have loved it. I was a stick guy before - never wanted an automatic. My 2003OB was a stick. Every car before was a stick. But, when I got my 2013 - it was no longer an option. I hated automatic rentals I drove - the shifting feel - the lag.

I loved the CVT - it was the best NON shift car I had driven. Sure it was a bit noisier - so what - it felt better- drives smoother.

But, I didnt know about this "fake shifts" subaru added. I saw a hint about this the other day when talking about the 2020 - and didnt know what they meant. So Subaru actually added fake shift points to appease whiners about the noise???
Ugh. That reminds me when our main boss was helping design our new big major sound facility in Hollywood, when the issue of the new urinals came up (the non flushing ones) he actually felt that people wouldnt like a non flushing urinal and wanted to install some sort of sound of flushing to make people feel more at ease. HE. WAS. TOTALLY. SERIOUS.

So you mean to tell me when I buy this 2020 OB its gonna have a CVT with fake shift points different than my 2013 just because a bunch of whiners....well, whined??

SMH.

Im gonna curse everyone of those whiners every time my new CVT annoys me. I hope this isnt as bad as it sounds.

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