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how much of the engine noise is related to the cvt? the car seems super noisy when accelerating, but tolerable when cruising at a steady speed? our pathfinder has a cvt and its super quiet, so im not sure what is the culprit - the boxer or the cvt.

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I don't know about "You're wrong because I say so" threads.


I don' feel shift points until I need RPMs to accelerate quickly. I honestly don't know how a 4 cylinder would be safe without shift points for revving the engine up to higher RPMs instantly.


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I don't know about "You're wrong because I say so" threads.
Certainly no worse than all the sophomoric "CVTs suck!!!" posts and threads.

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I honestly don't know how a 4 cylinder would be safe without shift points for revving the engine up to higher RPMs instantly.
A CVT doesn't need to simulate discrete "shift points" to do that.

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I don't know about "You're wrong because I say so" threads...
That's a mischaracterization, IMO, simply because they weren't your typical lazy, unsubstantiated statements. You were presented with a logical argument on each point in the first post, including the source of the reliability data. I've come to the same conclusion independently - if you doubt it, then try searching for yourself.
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Does anyone have any tips for when the cvt lags when cold. In order to get out of the subdivision I have to get onto a road that can get busy and you have to get in quickly. The CVT will sometimes take a second to respond when cold compared to when warm. I sometimes start accelerating half a second before I have to but even then it is very slow to accelerate and I have to be the guy who gets in the lane and slows everyone down.
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Does anyone have any tips for when the cvt lags ...
It may help to let the engine run at fast idle for 30 seconds to a minute before pulling out into traffic. Don't floor the gas pedal abruptly, rather roll it in smoothly.

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It may help to let the engine run at fast idle for 30 seconds to a minute before pulling out into traffic. Don't floor the gas pedal abruptly, rather roll it in quickly but smoothly.
I would say all Subaru electronic DBW throttle mapping work better if you smoothly "roll" the throttle. Stomping on it tends to cause delay/hic-ups
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I like Brucey's hat. When one dons a hat like that, you know that they know their stuff.

I didn't think I'd like the CVT but I've found the shift points make it feel like the old automatics.

Number three of Brucey's first post is personal preference and will always vary from person to person.
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how much of the engine noise is related to the cvt? the car seems super noisy when accelerating, but tolerable when cruising at a steady speed? our pathfinder has a cvt and its super quiet, so im not sure what is the culprit - the boxer or the cvt.

Engine noise is engine noise....the 2.5 has more than the 3.6 as well as your (V6) Pathfinder. The bigger engines produce more power at lower revs so they operate more quietly and with less vibration. The engine noise complaint specifically with a CVT is that when accelerating, the engine is at a constantly higher rpm as opposed to the typical up/down revving of a traditional trans. I've never really liked any CVT's attached to 4cyls but Honda's connected with the turbos aren't bad. But again, those engines have considerably more power at lower revs than non-turbo 4's.

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