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The ones where they let families of dogs drive around unsupervised might be sending the wrong message as well.
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Yep, safe enough to let your dog be your chauffeur.
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Or a duck.
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Given the skill level and attention span of some DOGS I've encountered over the years, the HUMAN DRIVERS are OK.
Pets controlling / driving your car? Nah.

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Pets controlling / driving your car? Nah.
Reminds me of WW-II, when renowned behavioral research psychologist B.F. Skinner demonstrated that pigeons could be trained to "fly" (i.e. keep upright and navigate) Link trainers, and presumably real airplanes and cruise missiles, as well or better than human pilots. The Generals were not receptive.

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Autonomous cars can't get here soon enough.


The upsides far outweigh the Luddite's paranoid delusions that they can out perform a computer..
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The big crunch (pun intended) will come during the decade-or-so transition period, when there is a variable mix of rule-observant autonomous vehicles and anarchic human drivers sharing the road.
My problem with autonomous vehicles isn't fear that the technology won't be good enough or that it will be dangerous. I just don't want to lose my freedom to drive, and autonomous vehicles will be the starting point to taking that away, one way or the other. There will be a transition, but eventually new vehicles won't even have human-interface mechanical controls. And even if humans actually driving isn't made illegal, I think it will become viewed as something so dangerous that the liability insurance costs of choosing to manually drive will price most people out of the option.

Autonomous cars will arrive in my lifetime, but hopefully the resulting consequences will be delayed just enough until I am too old to remember what I will be missing out on.
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Every car manufacture has it's strong points. Subaru has always focused on safety. From eyesight to the new SGP frame. Everybody has gone to modular platforms but Subaru put some extra thought into theirs. Very strong and robust enough so it can meet safety standards into the future. I think 2026? Now lets focus on some better engine and transmission options and I will be completly satisfied. They seem obsessed with the infotainment thing now and while I like the upgrade in 17 with Impreza, new Forester, and Ascent(8inch) I think the 2020 Outback is trying to hard. Put a base engine in it with some guts. 7 more HP and the same TQ is lame IMO.
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All good stuff but when the conversation turns to completely autonomous automobiles suddenly the thought of not having a person at the wheel becomes scary as if human error and inattentiveness never existed in the first place. Humans just seem to be a tough crowd to please.



Maybe that's because some of us that have worked as techs know how cheap most vehicle owners are. You're crazy if you think poorly maintained self driving cars are a good thing.
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I wrote a paper on Subaru advertising for a grad school class - their advertising reflects our own situation well, going from newly married to having kids, to now having future drivers - and the safety features are absolutely a strong sell to us. For instance, we realize our next car will be the one our kids learn to drive on, so instead of figuring out how rear facing carseats fit (I don't miss the days of two full size car seats in my husband's old RS!) we are considering the safety features for new drivers. Similarly, my parents are late 60s/early 70s and when they bought their new outback, they made sure to get Eyesight and other features (an 18 Limited, so I think it was still optional there.) It's not fully outsourcing responsibility of the driver, but react times go down with aging and having an assist is worth the money. I'd like to see the next ad feature boomers like my parents maintaining their driving independence more confidently with safety systems like eyesight. (And my folks are in great physical and mental health - currently on a month long golfing road trip in the southeast with that outback.)
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The big crunch (pun intended) will come during the decade-or-so transition period, when there is a variable mix of rule-observant autonomous vehicles and anarchic human drivers sharing the road.



On the upside, we can still curse at and flip the bird to robo-cars!
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I wrote a paper on Subaru advertising for a grad school class - their advertising reflects our own situation well, going from newly married to having kids, to now having future drivers - and the safety features are absolutely a strong sell to us. For instance, we realize our next car will be the one our kids learn to drive on, so instead of figuring out how rear facing carseats fit (I don't miss the days of two full size car seats in my husband's old RS!) we are considering the safety features for new drivers. Similarly, my parents are late 60s/early 70s and when they bought their new outback, they made sure to get Eyesight and other features (an 18 Limited, so I think it was still optional there.) It's not fully outsourcing responsibility of the driver, but react times go down with aging and having an assist is worth the money. I'd like to see the next ad feature boomers like my parents maintaining their driving independence more confidently with safety systems like eyesight. (And my folks are in great physical and mental health - currently on a month long golfing road trip in the southeast with that outback.)
We are in our 70s. One reason we bought our 2017 OB limited with eyesight was the technology and safety features. I will be considering a 2020 touring XT because of the newer safety features including a front camera, lane centering and driver's focus.
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On the upside, we can still curse at and flip the bird to robo-cars!
I'm confident that the automotive aftermarket will automate that for you, too. Check J.C. Whitney's web site in a few years.

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Check J.C. Whitney's web site in a few years.
I got those catalogs for years. Miss them sometimes as comical reading material. The stuffed animal for the rear window with lights for eyes that connect to the brake lights.

But I also ordered parts from them at times. Of course with the Internet there are so many more options for parts now.

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