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post #21 of 51 (permalink) Old 05-15-2019, 04:15 PM
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When I trade cars, I usually take the trade to Carmax and get the price they will buy it for prior to going to the Subaru dealer. In my area Carmax will usually beat the local Subaru dealer price for my trade.

Right or wrong, I traded for a 2019 because the the deal on 2019's is very good and I have concerns about the 2020 Outback. I do not want a 1st year car, direct injection, or start stop. These issues don't bother some folks but they are issues I would prefer to avoid for as long as possible. I know my next car will no doubt have direct inject and start stop but I would like to avoid these two things (and turbo charging) for as long as possible.

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the carmax idea is a good one.


for the OP - might check this thread, you may not be aware of it.... a very lengthy MSRP/Invoice thread with people posting deals they got or have found.


https://www.subaruoutback.org/forums...hread-654.html

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I think what you should do is compare the the things that you need between the 19 and the 20, then compare the features that you want.


95% of the features that you're going to want are still going to be on the 19, and you have the peace of mind that you still have physical buttons to control things like your climate control.
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+1, not sure why so much paranoia over stop/start. Heck, golf carts have had similar tech for 50 years. My son worked his way through high school and college at a golf course. Never once had a failed starter.

Simply makes no sense.
LOL, yes, driving a golf cart is exactly the same as getting stuck in busy traffic from a series of stop lights.


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LOL, yes, driving a golf cart is exactly the same as getting stuck in busy traffic from a series of stop lights.


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Actually pretty close. For most any round of golf with two amateur/mediocre golfers in the cart, the cart is probably stopping and restarting a couple hundred times.

The last two vehicles I rented with S/S never even activated that function in busy traffic.

Way too many chicken little's running around here with regard to S/S. It's clear many have never even driven a vehicle with the S/S feature. Just repeating something they read somewhere on the internet.

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Actually pretty close. For most any round of golf with two amateur/mediocre golfers in the cart, the cart is probably stopping and restarting a couple hundred times.

...and that's just on the front 9.
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You are going to take a pretty hard hit trading in a 2015 that doesn't have eyesight. Look for 14-16k, some dealers like to use the trade in value as a slider when combined with the new car price. That 2019 quote is very good for my area if you are not part of a special program or partnership.

You can get $14K to $16K as a trade for a 2015 Premium trim without Eyesight? That seems high.
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I want to bring up the Carmax reference again. I have no affiliation in any way with Carmax but I have sold several cars to Carmax over the past years. My experience has been a car in your 2015 OB price point will sell by Carmax for about $5K more than they pay the owner for it. Based on what I see on Carmax, I think they will pay you $14 to $16k for you car if it is clean and in good condition.

Trading can sometimes be confusing when attempting to figure out what you "really" paid for your new car. I like dealers who tell me "here is how much money we will give you for your car and we want this much money for our car". But you can't always find a dealer who makes the deal very clear.

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...and that's just on the front 9.

I play in 2 senior leagues.....you must play with some of the same folks I play with

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I want to bring up the Carmax reference again. I have no affiliation in any way with Carmax but I have sold several cars to Carmax over the past years. My experience has been a car in your 2015 OB price point will sell by Carmax for about $5K more than they pay the owner for it. Based on what I see on Carmax, I think they will pay you $14 to $16k for you car if it is clean and in good condition.

Trading can sometimes be confusing when attempting to figure out what you "really" paid for your new car. I like dealers who tell me "here is how much money we will give you for your car and we want this much money for our car". But you can't always find a dealer who makes the deal very clear.
My son works for CarMax. Mark up on your run of the mill Subaru will be nowhere near $5k. They strive to make $2200 per vehicle.

Their appraisers are pretty good at determining your vehicle's conditions prior to making you an offer.


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