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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-06-2005, 11:54 PM Thread Starter
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I just heard on NPR earlier today that Washington State is forgoing the upcoming federal emissions laws for the tougher California laws which Oregon also is expected to pass soon making the West Coast one of the cleanest. But I expect we still have a long way to go and IMHO it falls short when we have technology for alternative fuel vehicles.
The law should pass soon and effects all vehicles made after 2009.


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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-08-2005, 01:45 PM
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very true, but here I think they were gonna have separate tabs for each type of car, for instance, if U had an hummer your tabs would cost a ****load more than those of a camry, I dunno if they ever did do that, but it was a good idea.

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speaking of which, here is a couple of articles-
http://www.taxpayer.net/TCS/whitepapers/SUVtaxbreak.htm

ok, I could only find one offhand
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Interesting article. I was wondering why the Hummer (f*#% you mobile) got tax breaks.

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It is because, Bush was trying to encourage farmers so they could buy large trucks and pickups, and maybe even vans so they could haul, but the loophole is, that a realtor can write off his H2 if he says its for buisness. this is now a well known loophole but the government is doing nothing about it.
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speaking of the tax break. to get teh break the "truck" has to weigh in at over 6000 punds. mysterisouly, i forget which, but either the BMW X5 or the porsche Cayenne weigh in at 6050lbs.
cos, yeah, those are "work" trucks if there ever was one.

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theyre ****ing up out planet with their gas gulpin, trip to the grocery store SUVs
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Those people should just be lined up and shot.
I'm not seeing a lot of respect for freedom of choice here, perhaps that only applies when others make a choice we agree with.
Here's an idea, why doesn't the government establish a set of criteria and a survey form. Before you buy a new car you fill out the form and based upon your stated needs they provide a list of vehicles you're allowed to choose from.
I wonder if any 18mpg Outback XT's will be on that list. Because if you list the need to go 0-60mph in under 6 seconds they may let you have one.
I drive our '99 SUS to work 9 days out of 10 (40 mile round trip) and my wife drives our pickup (22 miles round trip). The Soobie gets 24/25mpg per tank and the truck get 15/16mpg, so since I have only one gas hog that's not an OBXT do I only get shot in the leg?

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Just espressing my opinion in accordance with my constitutional rights. I believe that a chunk of iron as large as an H2 has a bigger impact than just the amount of fuel it consumes.

Those people should just be lined up and shot.
Perhaps your penalties a bit stiff. Before H2 drivers get a cap perhaps all the pandering celebrities in the 10,000 square foot and beyond estates should be first on the chopping block. Do you have any idea how much in resources is used to build one of those places? How about the energy it takes to keep them cool in summer and warm in winter. You could probably run 100 H2's for a year of normal driving on the amount of energy it takes to run Bill Gates' or Larry Ellison's estates. Don't get me started on their private jets....


There's a lot more evil worry about in the world than some soccer mom in an SUV. And no, I don't own an SUV before you ask.

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This is a great place to express one's opinions and there are a lot of very knowledgeable people here but whether we agree or not lets keep it civil please.
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