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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 12-18-2011, 11:50 AM Thread Starter
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Choice of a timing belt kit

Hi all,

It's about time to change the timing belt on my '04 OBW, and I'm looking at a few options.
OEM from dealership - ~$400 for timing belt and water pump alone (oh Canada). Could go and pick it up in States, i guess. Safe bet.

Those two options I need an opinions on - anyone used them ? I've found a few threads, which say they should be ok, but wonder if something else has surfaced.
Ebay - Subaru Outback Timing Belt & Water Pump Kit - NON-Turbo | eBay
Part Manufacturer Part Number
Timing Belt Mitsoboshi 13028-AA21/TB307
Idler Roller- Upper (Smooth) Koyo / NSK 13073-AA142/AA180
Idler Roller- Lower (Smooth) Koyo / NSK 13073-AA190
Idler Roller-Lower (Cogged) Koyo / NSK 13085-AA010/61/80
Hydraulic Tensioner with Tension Roller Assy NTN 13033-AA042
Front Crankshaft Seal KP/Stone/THO/Nippon 80673-3030
Front Camshaft Seals KP/Stone/THO 80673-2150/2050
Water Pump & Gasket Paraut/Astugi 21111-AA007/AA000
Thermostat Kuzeh/Motorad 21200-AA072
Thermostat Gasket Ishino 21236-AA010
Power Steering Belt Bando 4PK-890
A/C / Alternator Belt Bando 5PK-880


Or RockAuto Gates kit - GATES Part # TCKWP277A
PowerGrip Premium OE Timing Belt Component Kit W/Water Pump; 6 Components (1 Belt, 1 Hydraulic Tensioner, 3 Idlers, 1 Water Pump)
Everytning made by Gates I suppose - are they good ?

Any suggestions ?

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Have you had a look at any of the sites that sell OEM parts? A lot of the time they sell Subaru parts significantly less than buying directly from the dealership.

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I'd look into subarupartsforyou.com or Hodges Subaru's parts dept first.

Gates is pretty good stuff, although some folk do use a Gates kit with a Subaru WP.

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I'd look into subarupartsforyou.com or Hodges Subaru's parts dept first.
I'm looking at this site right now.. They probably have a good selection of parts etc, but the site is horrible to the point of being unusable. Here I am looking at the huge list of parts, trying to match parts from either of those kits, and I either get nothing, or like a dozen of items... come on, really ? Not even a search button, no kits, hello from 1998 ?
I'll leave them a message, see if they'll reply with a quote..
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To answer your original question: that is a pretty good kit. The only thing I would do is get an OEM thermostat instead of using that one. All of the other parts - except maybe the water pump - are OEM for Subarus. And, as long as the water pump is made in Japan, it should be fine.

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Wally, are you referring to ebay or Gates kit ?
Oops - I mean the eBay kit...

I think Gates makes great belts, but when it comes to bearings, NTN is hard to beat.

Good luck,
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Oops - I mean the eBay kit...

I think Gates makes great belts, but when it comes to bearings, NTN is hard to beat.

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Pretty sure the gates kits use NTN bearings. The tensioner does at least
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I use the mizumo ebay kits. They are the cheap and the parts are all made in japan. Kits includes everything. Belt, all idlers, cam seals, crank seals, water pump and thermostat gasket. Only thing I change is the water pump gasket, I use OEM. I replace them at 60k intervals but for the price they are considerably cheaper than OEM. They have a couple of kits for the SOHC 2.5 the main difference being the quality of the water pump. They send out immediately and are very responsive to email.

If you are going OEM route, don't forget to pick up new cam seals, crank seal, and oil pump oring.
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Many people seem to be using the Gates kits. I have not (yet) myself tried them. It does get expensive fast to buy all the idlers as genuine parts. Subarupartsforyou.com is where I get all my stuff, local dealers here way too expensive. I don't know if they ship to Canada though or the possible import duties. Crossing the border to get parts probably isn't going to help much, since your main choices are going to be West Herr Subaru and Northtown Subaru and those both want top dollar for their parst.

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