Automatic transmission; 153726 miles. Timing belt was done at around 120k I think...I don't have my records handy. It recently had it's 150k check up and oil change (2 weeks ago).How many miles on the car
What EXACTLY were you doing when it died.
What Maint has been done on it (tune ups, timing belt, etc).
All the pulleys and gears were replaced with the belt. If the timing belt went while I was driving, wouldn't that make a loud noise?Were you accelerating, cruising, or did you lift your foot.
120K is awfully late for a TB change, was due at 106K. What other parts were replaced with the timing belt?
Do you have spark?
Funny you ask about the oil...knowing it was just changed made me wonder that too. It'll be the first thing I check in the morning when I'm back at the car.No a jumped timing belt does not make noise.
Coasting makes me suspect a jumped timing belt, as that is usually when timing drives (chains belts gears etc) fail, when you take your foot off the gas and the engine is unloaded.
Can you double check what was replaced. After that I would look for something electronic, like a bad crank or cam sensor. Not too many things would stop a subaru engine instantly like that.
Silly question .. how is the engine oil?
NO Way!!! It just up and locked up without any knocking noise? Had oil in it? Just said I quit without any warning?Well, per the mechanic, the motor is seized. It has oil in it, so it didn't run out of oil.
Thank heavens I bought a 2013 on Monday...but I wanted to have 2 Outbacks.
Putting it up for sale http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/67-classifieds/51415-2000-outback-limited-sale.html#post494413
I'm not sure what he did. I didn't speak to the mechanic directly. Hopefully I can stop by tomorrow.did he pull plugs? maybe it's hydrolocked with fuel or coolant.
I'm not sure what he did. I didn't speak to the mechanic directly. Hopefully I can stop by tomorrow.
The more I think about the condition of the car, the more I think it's more likely this guy doesn't know WTF he's talking about than that it's actually seized.
When you turn the key it acts totally normal, except it doesn't turn over.
I might be slow here, but I'm still not clear on what's happening. Does this mean:It doesn't turn over now, no. Everything comes on like it's gonna start and it just...doesn't.
So the head gasket was changed after the timing belt service, which meant the timing belt had to be removed and re-installed. Is the mechanic who did the head gasket the same one now saying the engine is seized?Double checking what was replaced on the TB is easy...I did it myself. Every part was changed, including the water pump while I was in there. Since then it had the head gasket replaced (by an actual trained mechanic, I had no time). The TB might have been done earlier than 120k, like I said, I need to check my records.
Ding ding ding.I might be slow here, but I'm still not clear on what's happening. Does this mean:
the starter seems to engage (solenoid click, battery voltage drops) but it can't turn (rotate) the engine (engine mechanically "seized"); or
This particular mechanic never worked on my Outback. He worked on my Sentra a few times. He is the go-to mechanic in the town where I was the Town Engineer (until last Friday). I trust him. Didn't much trust his subordinate, but I trust him.So the head gasket was changed after the timing belt service, which meant the timing belt had to be removed and re-installed. Is the mechanic who did the head gasket the same one now saying the engine is seized?
I totally agree. I believe it's a simple problem, but I would have to tear into the motor to find it and I haven't the time.The mechanical seizure seems unusual in terms of there being no signs/warnings (clatter, noise, etc) and no loss of oil.
I guess you've given up on finding out exactly what failed, especially as you have the new one coming and have posted the 2000 for sale or donation. But if you change your mind, and end up knowing, post it here; perhaps others might be able to learn from it.
Enjoy the new Outback.
This is about as screwy as Pete's XT issue.
Since the engine did not make any noise prior to shut down, and we all have heard 2.0, 2.2 and 2.5 engines run, and run a long time, with rods knocking so loud you could hear it a block away, and no seizure, this is strange.
I find it hard to believe the engine is seized. Really, I do. I have been repairing cars for going on 26 years. Grew up around auto repair as my dad was a Master Tech over 40 years. Never had a car shut down while running smooth without noise and end up being seized.
If you combine the engine shut down with a failure in the timing belt or parts, say a seized bearing on the idler gear, the engine won't turn. I would be pulling the front cover and looking at it. Wouldn't take more than 20 minutes to get the front torn down.