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We replaced our 1999 Discovery Series I with a 2011 Outback 2.5i Limited. We ultimately grew dissatisfied with the Outback and traded it, along with our 2003 Accord EX-L for my wife's 2013 Acura RDX AWD. She's much happier with the Acura.

I replaced my FWD 1991 Legacy Wagon with a 2004 Astro Cargo RWD and also purchased a 2003 Tundra TRD 4.7L 4x4 with a Snugtop topper. So 3 vehicles between us.

I kind of miss having a little wagon and due to lifestyle changes the Astro isn't being driven as much as I expected.

I'm thinking about either eliminating the van functionality completely or replacing it with a little box trailer and purchasing a 2006 Outback XT with ~80K miles. Test drove the Outback XT today and I was pretty impressed with it.

Are there any issues with these I should be aware of? Should I be worried about 80K miles? Any expensive maintenance right around the corner?

I sure don't NEED another vehicle. Even if I got rid of the van, I'm really fine with just having the truck. The Outback XT is sure a lot of fun though.
 

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The XT is a very fun car to drive.
Lots of power stock and a quick tune makes it a beast...

As far as the specific car goes - bring it to a reputable subaru mechanic.

Google Banjo Outback Problem... that's the main problem with our cars....

It has a turbo, so you need to change that oil often and use good quality stuff. (synthetic Only)

Take care of the car well and it wont let you down.
 

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I just picked up a 2006 OBXT Manual 7 weeks ago with 97,000 miles on it. Here is what I have had to do in order to get up and running... (Beware of reading these forums though, you may learn more than you want to and end up like me losing sleep over all the things you have to look for)

1. Timing Belt/Water pump/Tensioners/Thermostat/coolant
2. New Differential Fluid
3. NGK Iridium spark plugs
4. Front brake Rotors
5. Air Filter
6. Both front Axles (CV boot and Axles) - typical failure point of this model
7. Both rear wheel bearings - typical failure point of this model
8. Removed Banjo bolt and replaced it with Infamous Performance Tuning Oil Filter and new oil line. ($175.00 plus installation and worth every penny)
9. Front Lower Control Arms/Bushings - typical failure point of this model

All in all, I have paid approx $4,000 on top of the $12,250.00 that I paid for the Outback XT. If I could do it all again, I would look more closely before buying to find a model that has less work needed on it.

Typical mileage I have had is about 24mpg. I will say this, despite emptying my savings to get it perfect - the turbo is addictive. Seriously - the grin you get by driving the most invisible sleeper past much faster sports cars is worth the price of admission.:29:

Enjoy!!!
 

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So you wouldn't necessarily be afraid of 80k miles? Doesn't seem too bad in general for a 2006.
 

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Mileage is much less significant than maintenance history. If these engines are well maintained, with synthetic oil changed regularly, they can last a long time--at least in stock form. Our '05 XT has 182,000 miles--174,000 compiled by the first owner--and is still excellent, with no prior failures I'm aware of (and there's a lot of routine dealer service history, so I have no reason to believe there were major engine or turbo repairs quietly done somewhere else). It works as well as new, doesn't leak any fluids, and only consumes three or four ounces of oil between changes. As a bonus, the head gaskets aren't a trouble spot as they are on naturally aspirated 2.5's. 80,000 is very little; I'd just want to be sure about the maintenance that's been done, and would be prepared to do the timing belt/idlers/water pump/cam and crank seals/spark plugs/etc. at 105,000 to keep everything happy.
 

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i agree with taking it to a subaru mechanic. also, see if you can get of any documented maintenance and repair history. the timing belt/tensioner/idler job is coming up in about 20,000 miles, so be prepared for that. synthetic oil only and premium gas only. other than that, enjoy the boost smile.
 

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I wouldn't be afraid - like everyone is saying, be prepared for the normal maitanance that is required at 90K-100K for this car. Keeping in mind that it would be money spent on any car in that mileage range. Find a good Subaru mechanic/specialist to go through the car for you and you should be fine.

Realize that you are going to be using premium fuel and synthetic oil (every 3,750 miles or so)

Let us know if you buy it!
 

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Let us know if you buy it!
I'm going to take it for a pre-purchase inspection over lunch today.

It's the 5spd manual transmission. Not sure how I feel about that. I've owned several vehicles with a manual and every time I've wound up replacing it with an automatic. Probably a good thing, but having to shift makes it a little more difficult to interact with my iPhone.

I expect a large portion of my driving will be in-town <25mi, and often closer to 10mi round-trip.

Otherwise a few longer trips just buzzing around in the mountains and I fully expect to wind up on unpaved roads where my wife wouldn't drive her 2013 Acura RDX.

I haven't ruled out a turbo Forester or WRX 5-door, but I liked the size of my '91 Legacy FWD wagon and our 2011 Outback 2.5i Limited.
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Let us know if you buy it!
I think I'm going to pass on this one.

They found a whole bunch of misc stuff during the pre-purchase inspection.

Just touching on the highlights (power-steering pump, valve-cover gasket, axle shaft assembly), we're pushing $1500. I probably should have asked for more details on the little things (windshield washer spray nozzles not working, A/C compressor making slight noise and not blowing especially cold, front and rear struts leaking, oil leak behind timing cover (possible crank seal is leaking) oil pan gasket leaking, front brakes 10/32 and rear brakes 1/32), but I bet that's easily another $1500.

Based on this info, the seller did come down $1500 on his asking price, but with all of these issues I'm wondering how well the vehicle was originally maintained?
 

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that many maintenance issues needing to be addressed simultaneously probably answers that question. i wouldn't fault you for passing.
 

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that many maintenance issues needing to be addressed simultaneously probably answers that question. i wouldn't fault you for passing.
Does anybody think it would be worth spending $11,500 for it, plus another ~$3K (WAG) to fix everything up?

With maintenance being touted as so important on these, I'm thinking all these leaks suggest the previous owner(s) were pretty lax.
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The turbo engine does not respond well to neglect...I wouldn't risk this one.
 

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agreed. if you're convinced that an XT is the car for you, wait for the next one to come along. in all honesty, i wish i'd been more informed before purchasing mine. i've put quite a bit of $$ into it over the past 10 months to get fully caught up on mainenance and repairs.
 

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I was in the same boat as you at one point, Michael Aos. But don't be discouraged. (It sounds like you've got another car to tow the ol' Christmas ham in the meantime, anyway.) Just wait for a good deal.

After looking at 2 XT's and waiting several months, I was starting to look at WRX's more closely. But I finally found an XT with 85K miles, and I couldn't be happier. COMPLETE service records, no dings, dents, scratches, noises, loose parts...I kid you not, at the dealership I bought it from (Toyota), the salesmen all gathered around and were astonished at how clean it was....Anyway, my point is, if you like the car, wait for a good deal. Mine was over 2K miles away, so I flew over, picked it up, and drove it home. It was a good way to get the price down even lower. DONT GIVE UP!!!

I decided against the WRX because it was more like a go-cart. Don't get me wrong, I LOVED the WRX's, but I am usually on back-roads with multiple feet of snow. Reasons to get an Outback over WRX: ground clearance, comfy suspension on road/off road, more room, ultimate sleeper, nicer interior appointments, better skid plate, jealous soccer moms, disappointed old stuffy men (after you smoke them.)

Also, of note, I looked at one Forrester XT and decided that my beard didn't help the fact that I still looked like a lesbian driving it.
 

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I'm looking pretty hard at that Legacy GT Wagon w/6.1" ground clearance -vs- the Outback XT w/8.7".

That does kind of seem like a lot. I do have my truck if I'm PLANNING to go offroad though.

The wagon is mostly for buzzing around town and short (100mi - 300mi) trips on the Interstate. Probably 1x 3000mi trip a year.

It seems like the roads around here are mostly paved or have a good gravel main path, with Jeep trails that branch off. Green and black, to make a skiing analogy. Probably not much in between where an Outback XT could go and a Legacy GT wagon couldn't.
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1. Timing Belt/Water pump/Tensioners/Thermostat/coolant
2. New Differential Fluid
3. NGK Iridium spark plugs
4. Front brake Rotors
5. Air Filter
6. Both front Axles (CV boot and Axles) - typical failure point of this model
7. Both rear wheel bearings - typical failure point of this model
8. Removed Banjo bolt and replaced it with Infamous Performance Tuning Oil Filter and new oil line. ($175.00 plus installation and worth every penny)
9. Front Lower Control Arms/Bushings - typical failure point of this model

All in all, I have paid approx $4,000 on top of the $12,250.00 that I paid for the Outback XT.
You need to do your own work or find a cheaper mechanic. :29: I'm guessing you could've saved ~$2500 doing it yourself.
 

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I'm looking pretty hard at that Legacy GT Wagon w/6.1" ground clearance -vs- the Outback XT w/8.7".
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I like the looks of the GT over the XT, cleaner lines without the cladding. '07 was the last year for the GT wagon and I think '05 was the only year for the manual GT wagon which is what kept me from getting the GT. The only other difference between the two besides the body and ground clearance is the steering ratio. The GT has a quicker lock-to-lock than the XT. I have started liking the idea of extra ground clearance, but then I don't have a true truck as a 3rd vehicle.

The 2005's and some 2006's seemed to have a high report of turbo failures. They have a different turbo from the 2007-2009's. The failure could have been due to banjo filters too which was already mentioned. I would imagine that the turbo would have failed at this point now (05-06) if it is a turbo issue for those cars. The turbo is on the passenger side near the CV joint so that boot usually cracks first. If you have one inspected before you buy it, separate the downpipe so you can inspect the turbo for play in the shaft. Once you buy one, you know you will, pull the banjo filter off and make sure it is clean and then just follow the recommended ~3750 mile oil change. The rear shocks tend to sag on these cars, well the XT at least. Both the turbo and N/A 2.5 engines require the timing belt to be replaced at 105k. None of the 2005-2009 engines have been reported to have head gasket issues. Make sure the tires are all the same size as that can cause undue wear on the AWD system. Subaru Research Site- specs, prices, options, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009.. Outback, Legacy, Forester, Impreza, Tribeca, BRZ, XV is a great site to see specs and compare year to year changes.

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I just picked up a 2006 OBXT Manual 7 weeks ago with 97,000 miles on it. Here is what I have had to do in order to get up and running... (Beware of reading these forums though, you may learn more than you want to and end up like me losing sleep over all the things you have to look for)

1. Timing Belt/Water pump/Tensioners/Thermostat/coolant
2. New Differential Fluid
3. NGK Iridium spark plugs
4. Front brake Rotors
5. Air Filter
6. Both front Axles (CV boot and Axles) - typical failure point of this model
7. Both rear wheel bearings - typical failure point of this model
8. Removed Banjo bolt and replaced it with Infamous Performance Tuning Oil Filter and new oil line. ($175.00 plus installation and worth every penny)
9. Front Lower Control Arms/Bushings - typical failure point of this model

All in all, I have paid approx $4,000 on top of the $12,250.00 that I paid for the Outback XT. If I could do it all again, I would look more closely before buying to find a model that has less work needed on it.


Enjoy!!!
Wow...I've had to replace most of those things, but...

1. Timing belt, etc: $250 plus an afternoon/evening of work
2. Diff fluid: $30 plus an hour of labor
3. oem plugs: $20 plus an afternoon of labor.
4. Brake rotors (replaced by dealer before purchase).
5. Several air filters over the 50k miles I've put on my car: $50
6. Both front axles: $160 for new off brand ($600 if oem) plus an afternoon labor.
7. Both rear wheel bearings: covered by TSB up to 100k miles
8. Banjo filter removal and catless up pipe install $150. Add in gaskets that I had to replace myself to fix exhaust leak and it's $200
9. LCA bushings: $20 plus afternoon of labor.

There's more, but all in all, I've spend less than $1000 in parts on my xt and several afternoons of labor. If you spent $4k on what you listed, you were royally butt raped! Must have been a dealership.
 
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