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More interior space, more miles per gallon, more technology than before, the list just goes on and on for the 2015 Subaru Legacy.

The next-generation Japanese mid-sizer just debuted here at the 2014 Chicago Auto Show looking like a predictably toned down version of the concept seen a few months ago in L.A. You might have already seen leaked images of the car, but as usual with Subaru, it’s what you can’t see that counts the most.

Of course, it adopts the brand’s newest design language. It gets a more heavily raked windshield that moved two inches forward compared to the old model. The grille, front fascia, flanks and rear end all share styling cues with the new WRX.

Standard exterior equipment includes 17-inch ally wheels unless you go for the upscale “Limited” trim, in which case you’re getting 18′s. But enough about that. You can see how the car looks for yourself.

It’s time to nerd out and talk mechanical changes.

You might have heard about the torque vectoring system in the WRX and its angrier STI sibling. It applies braking to the front inside wheel when necessary to improve cornering capability in those cars and… you guessed it: the new Legacy! That should improve handling in what we at AutoGuide.com all agree is already one of the best to drive in the segment. Steering will also be more responsive with a quicker ratio and fewer turns lock-to-lock.

While it’s true that passenger volume is up slightly over the outgoing model, rear seat heat, leg and shoulder room are actually a little more confined. Trunk space, on the other hand, inreases by half a cubic foot to 15.5.

Under the hood, you’re going to find the same two engines as before. That’s right, Subaru decided to keep the 2.5-liter Boxer four and a 3.6-liter Boxer six in place. Honestly, it seems like a strange move to keep the 3.6 considering the new 2.0-liter turbo makes comparable power, more torque and would probably use less fuel. C’est la vie…

Speaking of things that fall into the “too bad” column: the manual transmission model joins so many others in the scrap pile. The five-speed automatic is also gone in the 3.6R. Yes, a CVT is standard across all models and that is that.

But it probably doesn’t matter because most people already buy the automatic Legacy and this time around it’s quite a bit more efficient. Subaru expects an average 30 mpg with the four-cylinder and 23 with the six, both of which are substantial improvements.

Interior revisions include a re-designed center console and center stack, and an updated version of the company’s EyeSight safety system that can autonomously stop the car at up to 30 mph. A new rear radar system also handles cross traffic alert, blind zone monitoring and lane changing assistance.

Subaru hasn’t said what it plans to charge for the cars, but the base CVT model currently costs about $22 grand while the six-cylinder model rings in just under $30,000. Don’t be surprised if both climb a little for 2015.
See more 2015 Subaru Legacy photos at AutoGuide.com
 

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no time for more from me now but:

THE H6 LIVES ON!:jump:

It was expected, but still. Also, as expected, it will feature a CVT. Having recently driven a 14 XT Forie, I see no problems with that in the Legacy. I am curious to learn about the way it might work off-road when coupled with x-mode on the OB, but I AM RELIEVED for the OB, and, even more so for the Tribeca-replacement.:17:
 

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Nice looking from the side and rear, but the front end looks to me like it belongs on an SUV and not a sedan. 30MPG combined is pretty great for a capable mid-sized AWD sedan. Congrats, Subaru :29:
 

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No more power, no turbo, no manual, no sale. All of the hardware is already engineered. A manual trans and the turbo along with some suspension tweaks you could have a winner. Maybe 2016?
 

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So sorry to see there is no more manual Legacy and likely true for the Outback too. Boo. Very soon only the WRX/STI will have a stick shift. I bet this was driven by their desire to stop building the AWD systems for the manual. Now they only have one powertrain to produce which likely cuts cost quite a bit. Still it brings a teat to the eye...
 

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So sorry to see there is no more manual Legacy and likely true for the Outback too. Boo. Very soon only the WRX/STI will have a stick shift. I bet this was driven by their desire to stop building the AWD systems for the manual. Now they only have one powertrain to produce which likely cuts cost quite a bit. Still it brings a teat to the eye...
No its driven by sales even back in 2001 it was hard for them to sell a MT Legacy - trust me thats how I got mine dirt cheap with zero miles on it.

Having lived with the CVT now since 2010 and towing our tent trailer and our 21ft 1800lb racing sailboat I will admit that my must have MT days in a Legacy/OB are long gone. The CVT is a very nice fit to the legacy and OB. Make them a turbo vehicle and dramatically improve their handling yes the MT is still a must but they aren't so CVT it is
 

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I do too prior to 2010 all my cars were MT cars. We still have the 2001 1.8T jetta in 5spd format when that gets replaced its the wifes car I told her we MUST have at least one MT meaning if the VW gets replaced with an Auto then I get to sell the Sequoia and replace it with a Tacoma 6spd 4x4! Our daily family wagon is the CVT OB the VW is the wifes work car during the week and the OB is the wifes car during the weekends.

However she is also talking 911 manual as a possible replacement for the VW so well see.
 

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Is it a definite that if the Legacy drops the manual, the Outback will too?
Yes - same exact car - same exact everything except the wagon body and raised stilts on the OB

Even the hitch is EXACTLY the same

I have both 2010 Legacy and a 2010 OB they are identical!
Same sort of deal with my 2001 Legacy and my Cousins 2001 OB same exact car with very very minor differences.
 

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Yes - same exact car - same exact everything except the wagon body and raised stilts on the OB

Even the hitch is EXACTLY the same

I have both 2010 Legacy and a 2010 OB they are identical!
Same sort of deal with my 2001 Legacy and my Cousins 2001 OB same exact car with very very minor differences.
OK, thanks -- that's what I thought. Can 2014's still be ordered at least?

If so, time to see if I can't make a hail mary play with the wife to buy a 2014.
 

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The MT isn't really that big of a deal with the OB I like manuals so I get it but if I were to buy another OB today I wouldn't want the MT. The CVT has been a very very good match to the OB's character and the MT was not a super nice MT like for instance if it shifted like our VW does then I would say the OB MT is a nice MT - its not... Very industrial and not very smooth and can be a little balky at times.

The manuals do not sell well so chances are you can find one sitting around on a dealers lot - I wouldn't bother trying to order one - just have your local dealer track one down and do a swap for it.
 

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Fair enough.

Not to say that I haven't grown to appreciate the other aspects of the Outback, but the fact that it was basically the only manual wagon available was what turned my wife and I onto it. I guess my point being that if I were forced to take an automatic, I would probably drastically increase my search window.
 

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Anyone else see this? Is it just a cruel joke?

2015 Subaru Outback Release Date, Specs, Changes & Rumors - The Next Cars

"Engine lineup will likely be the same as the Legacy production model, except the diesel engine, which reportedly will be offered in the 2015 Outback. The entry-level model will still be available with a 2.5-liter 4-cylinder boxer engine that can be paired to either a six-speed manual gearbox or a Lineartronic CVT. The 2.5L boxer engine can deliver up to 173 HP at 5,600 rpm and 174 lb-ft of torque at 4,100 rpm."

"However, a 3.6-liter six-cylinder engine may not be offered again in the new Outback wagon. Instead, Subaru will reportedly offer a new diesel-hybrid powertrain that will be taken from the 2013 Viziv Crossover Concept."


Hanging on to any threads of a hint of a rumor of a diesel OB.
 
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