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Which technique worked for you to get into the menu?
What is the model # printed on the front of your head unit (bottom right)?

I can't get this to work on mine. 2013 #CE617UI.

EDIT: Success. I was trying all the wrong ones. The post #37, which is for a Crosstrek and looks like a different unit entirely, worked.
 

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Which technique worked for you to get into the menu?
What is the model # printed on the front of your head unit (bottom right)?

I can't get this to work on mine. 2013 #CE617UI.

EDIT: Success. I was trying all the wrong ones. The post #37, which is for a Crosstrek and looks like a different unit entirely, worked.
Sorry for the late reply. Same model number.
For the record here are the steps:

1) turn on acc power to car
2) with radio off press the following at the same time
1-2-press tune in - sedan mode
1-3-press tune in - wagon mode
1-4-press tune in - through mode

3) for loudness setting turn stereo on and press 1-6-tune in to switch loudness on or off

Sean
 

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One more thing

I attached the user manual from the FCC site for this head unit. Actual model number is CE617U1 (not an I in the last digit). Unfortunately i don't see any of these service mode codes in the manual.
 

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Very cool find..I love little things like this. What's the sound difference between Sedan, Wagon and Through Mode? What does the Loudness Setting On/Off do?
 

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does this only work on the premium model?

Loudness setting in short - is what you should turn it to (if you find you prefer it) when you are playing the unit at low levels. Due to physics and the way our ears are designed, if you listen to stereos at low levels, the low end tends to drop away un-proportionality (is that a word?) .
So the loudness setting is an eq curve that compensates for this to make the audio sound more natural. It is only meant to be used at very low levels - at normal levels, it will make the audio sound too "boomy". Whether you like "boomy" or not, this setting was meant to be used when you have the volume lower.

I have found I like this setting esp in a car because of the other noises (road/engine) that also are masking the sound when its low, it doesnt really make it louder - but it makes it a bit more full and clear.


Sorry Sean but can you explain the steps? I am not sure what you mean by the description - sorry if this is obvious to everyone else.
 

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Sequoia - thanks for the explanation.

To clarify then..I currently have the bass level at -2 and it still sounds "boomy" to me, but I imagine I have the loundess setting "On" since I haven't changed it otherwise. If I turn the loudness setting "Off", and listen to audio at normal levels it should make it less "boomy" - correct?
 

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Very cool find..I love little things like this. What's the sound difference between Sedan, Wagon and Through Mode? What does the Loudness Setting On/Off do?
If you look at page 4 in the thread linked in the original post, someone posted graphs of the audio analysis of the different settings. Basically they are eq settings, and "through" mode is a flat signal with no eq applied.
 

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does this only work on the premium model?
Sorry Sean but can you explain the steps? I am not sure what you mean by the description - sorry if this is obvious to everyone else.
As an example :

1-2-press tune in - sedan mode

Press the preset 1, preset 2 and press the tune dial in all at the same time to switch to sedan mode. Radio should be off but accessory power on to the car.
 

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Sequoia - thanks for the explanation.

To clarify then..I currently have the bass level at -2 and it still sounds "boomy" to me, but I imagine I have the loundess setting "On" since I haven't changed it otherwise. If I turn the loudness setting "Off", and listen to audio at normal levels it should make it less "boomy" - correct?
Assuming its already ON - then yes definitely.
If you happen to read my other thread today - I just got a 2013 Limited and its WAY too boomy in strange ways. I am starting to wonder if this setting is set to on - but I dont know how to access it. I am afraid its not as easy as that its just set wrong - but would love to find out thats the case.

But yes - the loudness setting should NOT sound good at normal volumes. There are WAY better ways to bring up low end at normal volumes. Loudness is only designed for low volumes and will sound very boomy at normal volumes if its on.
 

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^ Thanks, I did just read your other thread and share the same sentiments to the "boomy" sound. I'll take a look at it this weekend and hope this will resolve the issue. Loudness off!
 

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Loudness setting in short - is what you should turn it to (if you find you prefer it) when you are playing the unit at low levels. Due to physics and the way our ears are designed, if you listen to stereos at low levels, the low end tends to drop away un-proportionality (is that a word?) .
So the loudness setting is an eq curve that compensates for this to make the audio sound more natural. It is only meant to be used at very low levels - at normal levels, it will make the audio sound too "boomy". Whether you like "boomy" or not, this setting was meant to be used when you have the volume lower.
Thank you! This is thet best explanation I've seen for this.

My wife has the bass at neg 4 or 5, so I'm gonna see if it's currently on.
 

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does anyone have any idea how to do any such thing on the Harmon Kardon head unit that comes w the limited SAP (nav)???

these techniques are for clarion units it seems and def dont work on my unit
 

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So I just tried this and while it was easy to move between "sedan", "wagon", and "pass through" modes, there was no confirmation for turning "loudness" on/off. Is there no visual confirmation that loudness is on or off? I didn't really notice a difference in the sound after supposedly turning it on or off, which makes me believe I wasn't doing it right..

Can anyone confirm that there is no visual confirmation for loudness on/off?
 

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I get a confirmation on the loudness. You need to make sure that the unit is on when you turn loudness on/off.
 

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^ That'll do it, thanks! Loudness is OFF now. It really does take away the "boomy" sound!
 

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Ill ask one more time. ;)

does anyone have any idea how to do any such thing on the Harmon Kardon head unit that comes w the limited SAP (nav)???

these techniques are for clarion units it seems and def dont work on my unit.

I had it at my dealer today for a few minor issues and they knew NOTHING about any secret menus or other controls for audio quality. (not surprised here).

Ive NEVER seen a car stereo without a loudness setting btw - wonder if I should contact HK and try to fish around for info there.
 

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After hours of fiddling with it, I have a setting that sounds pretty good.
Wagon mode, Loudness off, SRS on:
Bass -2
Mid +2
Treble +5

The bass is tight, the mids are pretty normal, and the highs are pretty clear. I typically keep the volume between 30 and 34, and this setting works for most of the music I listen to.
 

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Ill ask one more time. ;)

does anyone have any idea how to do any such thing on the Harmon Kardon head unit that comes w the limited SAP (nav)???

these techniques are for clarion units it seems and def dont work on my unit.

I had it at my dealer today for a few minor issues and they knew NOTHING about any secret menus or other controls for audio quality. (not surprised here).

Ive NEVER seen a car stereo without a loudness setting btw - wonder if I should contact HK and try to fish around for info there.
SAP's have no loudness setting/adjustment.
 
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