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I have a 2006 Outback with 84,125 miles. Is this mileage close enough to the 90k for me to schedule a visit to the dealership? Is there any reason to wait until the odometer flips to 90k before doing the maintenance?

I've had an issue with my car starting lately. I'm not sure what the problem is yet, when it happens I get the flashing CEL and Cruise Control lights. Usually, I just wait a few minutes and then it will start. This happens about once a week lately.

While driving on my lunch break today, my car suddenly died. I pushed it into a gas station lot and let it sit for a few minutes before trying to start it again. It wouldn't start, similar to the usual problem I've been having where it cranks but won't turn over. I asked someone for a jump and that got it started again. I am going to take the battery out and have it tested asap.

I did notice one thing while I had my hood open in the gas station lot. There is some oily fluid leaking near my engine. It looks like it's coming from a hose on the front left side, just behind the radiator fan. I'm not sure what the part is, so I will snap some pictures and upload them here once I get the chance to do so.

If I'm close enough to my 90k service, I would like to take it to the dealership and have everything done at once. If not, it's no big deal.

Thoughts? Thanks.
 

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You won't get a break for the 90k + other work. They charge you for each thing on the list. So it's totally up to you if it's more convienent, then do it all now. Otherwise wait. 5k either way won't matter. I think the 90k is just a coolant change, so no big ticket item. It's the 105k timing belt that will cost.
 

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My timing belt was replaced at 90k. I bought the car and took it to the dealer where it was originally purchased and where it was maintained. At first I just asked if it had the 105k service done, and they looked at me dumbfounded. Then after searching they found that the belt was replaced at 90k miles. This threw me as I've always heard of the timing belt at 105k.
 

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I have a 2006 Outback with 84,125 miles. Is this mileage close enough to the 90k for me to schedule a visit to the dealership? Is there any reason to wait until the odometer flips to 90k before doing the maintenance?

I've had an issue with my car starting lately. I'm not sure what the problem is yet, when it happens I get the flashing CEL and Cruise Control lights. Usually, I just wait a few minutes and then it will start. This happens about once a week lately.

While driving on my lunch break today, my car suddenly died. I pushed it into a gas station lot and let it sit for a few minutes before trying to start it again. It wouldn't start, similar to the usual problem I've been having where it cranks but won't turn over. I asked someone for a jump and that got it started again. I am going to take the battery out and have it tested asap.

I did notice one thing while I had my hood open in the gas station lot. There is some oily fluid leaking near my engine. It looks like it's coming from a hose on the front left side, just behind the radiator fan. I'm not sure what the part is, so I will snap some pictures and upload them here once I get the chance to do so.

If I'm close enough to my 90k service, I would like to take it to the dealership and have everything done at once. If not, it's no big deal.

Thoughts? Thanks.
Bring it to me. You don't need the dealer. Sent PM.
 

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I would take him up on that offer!
 

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If there's a noticeable leak, and you can't identify where it's from and correct it, then take the car in, at least to have that checked. (If it's coming from the cooling system, you could lose enough coolant to cause overheating of the engine. That could cause other problems.)

also, don't disregard a CEL that's on, and all the more so, one that's flashing. A flashing CEL indicates a (relatively) serious problem. If you are getting a CEL, then there's a code (or more than one) that's probably stored in the car computer memory (even after the CEL goes off). When that code is deciphered, the problem will be better understood. Dealers, garages, and many auto parts stores are equipped to connect a code reader to the car.

Oh, and yes, cardoc's is the place to go if your in the area.
 

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cardoc, thanks for the pm and the offer! I will be contacting you soon to schedule something.

Here's an update: the car started up just fine when I got out of work today. I stopped at AutoZone on the way home to have the codes read and the battery checked. Unfortunately, the guy working disconnected my battery while checking it before hooking up the scanner for the engine codes. So my battery passed the test and the scanner found no codes.

Here are some pictures of the leak. Everything else under my hood looks clean. The last photo shows what looks to me like a bent piece of hardware just under the nut, just another thing I noticed.


 

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That would be the power steering pump and that broken piece in the last photo is the banjo bolt seal. Someone has had this off before and didn't reinstall it correctly. Overtorqued probably. Or someone saw a leak and thought tightening the bolt would stop it when it made it worse. There could also be a seal leak on the pump but it would have to be cleaned and checked after.

Auto Zone idiots. He could have checked the battery with disconnecting the cables. I keep telling their district supervisors that they are doing more harm than good both in giving people bad advise and clearing the ECM memory either by a dumb move like you mention or purposely using the scanner. There went freeze frame.
 

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Thanks for the leaky part id cardoc. I've had this car since 77k miles and done all the fluid changes myself. The banjo bolt must have been tweaked from previous service.

I believe the last major service was done at Austin Subaru just before I purchased the vehicle. They did the 60k maintenance and replaced the short block, crank, rods, valve seals. I think the previous owner ran it without oil, then decided to repair and sell it leaving me with a newly rebuilt (half)engine.
 

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Follow up:

Changed his oil. M1 and Subie filter. The filter looked like it was leaking a litle. Cleaned that up.

Ran a scan on the car and it only had history code for P0335B, crank signal.
Freeze frame showed no RPM, but had 5.7 g/s MAF. It only happened once since the ECM was reset.

Data showed high LTFT, up to 21% in neutral at 2200 rpm. AF and O2 sensors were working. ECM was regulating STFT well. Temp was excellent. Looking at the O2 sensor data, it had a steady waveform idling and after increased engine rpm matching the STFT closely. I don't think the CAT is bad because after a few minutes at high rpm, the data leveled out. The CAT heated up and was better able to burn the HCs even with the high trim. Couple the high LTFT with the way the CAT is acting, its the fuel. My guess would be high amount of Ethanol.

Recommended a fill up with Premium from a major fuel company, 93 octane here, and a full can of Sea Foam in the tank, with continued use of the 93 and then I'll recheck the data later.

The PS pump was cleaned to see if the leak is from the banjo bolt, unlikely, from the o-ring under the hose adapter or the spring clamp is allowing for fluid to seep out due to a hardening return hose at the adapter.

Otherwise, all checked out good. His 90k is minuscule since the engine was replaced at 60k and the front engine overhaul won't be necessary until 165k. A long way to go.
 
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