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Hey Everyone,


I'm tire shopping for my 2013 Outback 3.6R Limited. I'm looking for a all-season AT tire to replace the original Conti's with 40k on them. I'm probably only going to offroad maybe 15% of the time (the rest normal roads / highway + city pot holes), but hopefully don't want to sacrifice a ton of fuel economy for the tires. I'm also open to replacing the stock rims.



My stock tire size is 225/60/17


Considering the following:


Yokohama Geolander G015 225/65/17 (will this fit without issue or do I need a lift kit? I would love to hear someones first hand experience with this one.)


Yokohama Geolander A/T-S 225/60/17 (how does this compare to the G015?)



Your tire suggestion?


Also, if anyone wants to chime in with other tire/rim options, I'd love to hear them.


Thanks everyone!


Bob
 

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I had the same need ended up getting the BFG Advantage ta sports. I tow also which just trashed the soft stock tires.

The BFG Advantage Sports are hands down my top favorite subaru tire now. Two snow seasons in Tahoe good traction. Lots of dirt and even a really muddy nasty dump run towing a trailer they have been great. Zero obvious hit to highway mileage or handling. I have about 30k on them and looking like 50-60k is very possible with the current wear rate. I do bump the rears to 37psi on heavily loaded road trips.
 

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Yokohama Geolander A/T-S 225/60/17

I put them my 2011 and LOVE them. Grip in mud and rain so much better and so far have better life than the Defenders or Triple Treads I have used before!
 

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Yokohama Geolander A/T-S 225/60/17

I put them my 2011 and LOVE them. Grip in mud and rain so much better and so far have better life than the Defenders or Triple Treads I have used before!
Any experience with the G015's?

Glad to hear your positive experience with the Yoko's ?
 

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I had the same need ended up getting the BFG Advantage ta sports. I tow also which just trashed the soft stock tires.

The BFG Advantage Sports are hands down my top favorite subaru tire now. Two snow seasons in Tahoe good traction. Lots of dirt and even a really muddy nasty dump run towing a trailer they have been great. Zero obvious hit to highway mileage or handling. I have about 30k on them and looking like 50-60k is very possible with the current wear rate. I do bump the rears to 37psi on heavily loaded road trips.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm surprised you got such a good traction result from a tire that looks modest/non-agressive.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'm surprised you got such a good traction result from a tire that looks modest/non-agressive.
They are a hybrid between road tire and full on AT tire. I do quite a bit of west coast stuff dirt and snow. Trails down to river gravel bars, Lost Coast some 6 miles in I did in my Legacy on stock potenzas in June between rain storms. Zero traction problems in muddy Redwood forest type terrain. Since my 2001 Subaru I have found traction hasn’t really been the issue as much as durability, and not totally destroying the on road performance and mileage with heavy dirt focused tires. Geos are OK but I have always felt they were over hyped and pricy. My Sequoia had Geos on it when I bought it, they were terrible literally leaky tires after a gravel road. But that was a really heavy truck and hard on tires. stock oem are Michelin LT truck tires on that. I put BFG Rugged Terrains on it.

The Subaru unless your doing really rocky stuff like desert, Utah high country CO etc and you need heavier rock puncture resistance? I have found that really aggressive AT tires don’t add much, but they kill the road performance in a big way.

RAV 4’s typically get the Geos and my OB on the BFGs did way better in Tahoe snow than my friends RAV granted his AWD is not all that great on snow either.

The BFG Advantage at sports do have some side wall lug to them. But its done in a muted manner. I honestly think these are the best tires regarding durability, road performance and off road ability I’ve ever run on my Subarus. I think I’m nearing 300,000 miles in subaru now. I’ve tried a bunch of tires thats for sure.
 

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Many people on this forum run the Yokohama Geolandat G015 tires with solid results. I have been running them on my FJ Cruiser and now on my Dodge 3500 4x4 in the e-rated version for over 2 years. They ride great, are quiet and provide excellent traction.

The Yokohama Geolandar A/T3 has been discontinued.

Please let us know if we can help.
 

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Run the G015's on Sparco Terra's in the 16" flavor. My size is 225/70R16, and the diameter is .8" bigger than stock (225/60r17), with a diameter of 28.4" vs 27.6". Will bottom out harsher and have a tiny bit of rub every now and again, but not a huge issue if you don't drive like a complete tool. Traction in mud/dirt seems really good too. Road noise isn't horrid at all.
 

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I put the GO15s on my 10 earlier this year. I love these tires. A bit louder then the Uniroyals that were on there but they are solid. Snow, heavy rain, mud, etc, they just beast through it. Good looking tire, too. Got 'em at Discount Tire. Had to order as local store doesn't stock them - manager said he'd recommend them for most Outbacks.
 

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I have a Gen 3, but I chose the Continental TerrainContact A/T for the last 1500 miles. I have the 225/60/17. It is meant more for highway driving but still has an aggressive tread with a good wear rating. It is a little noisier than stock but I'm not sure my wife would even notice it. It took a few days for discount to get them in, so they aren't as easy to come by as the Geos.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'm surprised you got such a good traction result from a tire that looks modest/non-agressive.
They are a hybrid between road tire and full on AT tire. I do quite a bit of west coast stuff dirt and snow. Trails down to river gravel bars, Lost Coast some 6 miles in I did in my Legacy on stock potenzas in June between rain storms. Zero traction problems in muddy Redwood forest type terrain. Since my 2001 Subaru I have found traction hasn’t really been the issue as much as durability, and not totally destroying the on road performance and mileage with heavy dirt focused tires. Geos are OK but I have always felt they were over hyped and pricy. My Sequoia had Geos on it when I bought it, they were terrible literally leaky tires after a gravel road. But that was a really heavy truck and hard on tires. stock oem are Michelin LT truck tires on that. I put BFG Rugged Terrains on it.

The Subaru unless your doing really rocky stuff like desert, Utah high country CO etc and you need heavier rock puncture resistance? I have found that really aggressive AT tires don’t add much, but they kill the road performance in a big way.

RAV 4’s typically get the Geos and my OB on the BFGs did way better in Tahoe snow than my friends RAV granted his AWD is not all that great on snow either.

The BFG Advantage at sports do have some side wall lug to them. But its done in a muted manner. I honestly think these are the best tires regarding durability, road performance and off road ability I’ve ever run on my Subarus. I think I’m nearing 300,000 miles in subaru now. I’ve tried a bunch of tires thats for sure.
Thanks for the feedback. Curious, we're the GEO'S you used the A/T-S or G015?

Although I'm probably not going to do a lot of hard high desert rock stuff, pot holes and general city roads in Chicago are brutal!

Have you ever put on taller tires (65's to replace the stock 60's), and do you need to carry a full size spare? I've read that diameter difference can be a big issue with the AWD if using a smaller spare.
 

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Run the G015's on Sparco Terra's in the 16" flavor. My size is 225/70R16, and the diameter is .8" bigger than stock (225/60r17), with a diameter of 28.4" vs 27.6". Will bottom out harsher and have a tiny bit of rub every now and again, but not a huge issue if you don't drive like a complete tool. Traction in mud/dirt seems really good too. Road noise isn't horrid at all.
What year is your Outback? Do you also carry a full size spare, or do you still have and use the smaller 60 stock spare tire?
 

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Mine is a 2011. Still have the stock spare, but plan on getting a full sized spare maybe next spring, in the same set up I have. Just need to take out the back seats/and all the junk in the back holding the spare in and what not to see best way to keep one in my car. And then for winter get another when I go through my two sets of 16" Blizzaks and go back to using the stock rims with winter tires.
 

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I'm in the same boat with my 2011 2.5i. Can't decide between the G015, Geo AT/S, and Conti Terrain Contact. Side roads in MN by me are horrible, highway expansions seem to have 6" gaps (they don't), and we had 6 months of winter last year. My only hang up selecting all terrains is I drive about 24k miles a year. My current Conti touring tires are a "90k mile" tire that I just hit 60k miles on and are at the wear bars (with rotations every 6k, no trailers, no hauling...etc.). So an all terrain tire with a 50k or 60k mile "warranty" would get me 30-40k miles. I guess Outbacks are known to eat tires a little more with their AWD setup. Discount Tire is good about pro-rating, so it helps. I want long-ish life but a comfortable and compliant ride above all. All terrains or touring highways? What to do, what to do...
 

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The Yokohama Geolandar A/Ts has been discontinued but the Geolandar G015 or the Continental Terrain Contact A/T would both be good tires for your weather as they are both rated for winter weather. The Yokohama Geolandar G015 is also snowflake approved which designates it a being rated for severe winter weather.

They would both be good quality tires.
 

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I run the BFGoodrich Atvantage T/A Sport LT on my 2017 Outback and absolutely love these tires. They're very good for the off roading I do and were awesome in the snow we had this past winter.

Plus, they're great on wet or dry pavement, allow a little bit of a stiffer ride when cornering, aren't all that noisy running on dry pavement and didn't affect my mpg at all. In my last off road adventure, the Wrangler owners were very impressed with how well I went through the mud and a few even said they were going to buy this tire for their Jeeps.
 
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