Just get the 6, if you're not careful this is going to turn into another thread that gets shut down. Of course then again you need your license taken away anyway so maybe the 6 will get that done quicker. :twak:i dont doubt that 4 cylinder can do all that. im just judging from experience i had with 2007 forester for example. it feels like its over working all the time, i admit i dont drive speed limit. 70 in 50 80 in 60. i know it doesnt have cvt but still. so why make a 6 cyl with 5 speed? doesnt their new cvt can handle over 260lb of torque? i need to hear both sides . anyone?