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Beginning to work on my 97 OBW. This will be my log for interior modifications on my car (not certain if this should be moved to the gallery or gen 1 topic so feel free to move it moderators). The idea is to make an sti interior with blue on black, I'm beginning to find ways to incorporate red and have black as the background color. After much research I found the cheapest I could get the blue alcantara material was about 65$ per yard so I settled for a suede material I found on clearance at Joann's for 4$ per yard. With no experience with upholstery or interior work like this I didn't want to start on an expensive material like alcantara where I knew I would make mistakes. Suede is a very easy fabric to work with and appears to be tough enough for high traffic areas like the center console arm rest. Fading due to sun exposure is yet to be seen.

The dashboard has some sun bleaching so the next thing will be flocking the dashboard black(flocking kit is still in the mail). The front seats will be changed out with sti seats once I find a descent source for them. New floor mats and stereo with an sti wheel and she will be done! I will post more pictures as the project comes together.

As a side note I have posted this on Nasioc and SL-I boards so I apologize if anyone has already read this there. I am trying to gather as much feedback as possible to better hone the finished product to a quality Subaru.









 

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Started with flocking a few small pieces today. I must say I am thoroughly amazed with the results of the flocking kit from donjer. I thought I would start with the dome light between the sun visors. I will write up a full DIY later if there is interest. Keep in mind these pictures were taken with my phone and do absolutely zero justice to how good this glistens in the sunlight.









Final pictures coming tomorrow as I'm just installing it and it's dark out.
 

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I was originally introduced to it by a friend when we were discussing what to do with our dashboards. He said the WRC cars have flocked dashboards and we started looking into it. I was thinking of wrapping it in Alcantara but the material is quite expensive and I'm no upholstery professional.

Hard to tell in the pictures as it looks almost shag-like in the closeups. This material has a very present yet subtle sparkle in the sunlight with a soft texture. I am completely happy with the results and will be doing the dash with this process and other interior pieces. I am currently torn between wrapping the a/b/c pillars in suede vs flocking black.... Ideas?



 

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I'm working on repairing the sun rotting on the top edge of the door panels, I'll have pictures soon. More flocking and suede on the way... For now though, flocked window switches to cover up that wood trim stuff and window decals! I gotta say the yellow decals over blue interior is striking :)

PS - Keep in mind, work in progress pictures.





 

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I left this image full resolution so you can see the brilliance of how good the flocking looks in direct sunlight:



 

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Here is a quick photolog of doing the suede on a small piece for those that are interested:

I wanted to do the door handle while I had the panel off for the vinyl repair so...



Handle removed:



Scrap section of suede fitted perfectly to this piece:



Spray on adhesive applied to the handle and suede wrapped around the to-be-seen side:



Excess trimmed off:



Spray on adhesive applied to back side and the suede that will be folded over (effectively sprayed on both materials for maximum adhesion) and pulled tight over the back side of handle:



Using a razor blade I trimmed out the hole for the plug. Reinstalled:



In total, with taking pictures, took about 10 minutes.
 

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More progress on the project. I was able to remove and flock the dashboard today and will be installing it with new seats I'm picking up tomorrow.

Removing trim pieces:



Dashboard out:




Wires protected from flocking:



Airbag flocked:



Makeshift flocking booth on back patio:



Partial shot of the dashboard:



I'll have more pictures of the flocked dash and install tomorrow. Off topic but I repainted the wheels, I think they turned out perfect for rattle cans:



 

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Quick update. Seats acquired. Dashboard installed. Went on a 4 hour road trip down to Phoenix to pick up the seats with the dashboard installed and I've gotta say the results are awesome. I love the black on blue color schemes and the best part is there is absolutely zero glare now. I was concerned that the shiny/sparkly black complexion of the flocking would be reflective but even in direct sunlight I am hard pressed to notice any detail of the dashboard in the windshield. It's hard to get lighting such that my camera doesn't saturate the blue when focusing the black but here are a few shots until I figure out the lighting.

Quick side note though: on their instructions they say the adhesive has a 10-15 minute workable range but I had never really tested the time on this before starting on something as big as the dashboard. In Arizona I would say you have more of a 3-5 minute workable range because of the dryness and higher temperatures. I had myself and a friend applying the adhesive and I started applying the flocking roughly 5 minutes after we started and some spots were already too dry to accept flocking and it became a psycho rush of me reapplying adhesive in certain areas to recover the project as you can only do this once and not in sections. This was certainly nerve racking but the results turned out better than I expected. There were some light spots but they are difficult to notice. Odd thing about flocking is it looks 20x better in direct sunlight than otherwise. So if you live in a dry/hot area... do this in a garage, run a humidifier and do this at night while it's cool out. Have at least 2 people applying adhesive and a third person delivering the flocking as immediately after the adhesive as practical. Anywho... Pictures:





 

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I picked these seats up for $400 from a want ad I posted on craigslist. Less than 5k miles on them and they're perfect, not to mention uber comfortable given that I commute 2+ hours a day 5 days a week in her. Only had them in for 2 days and my back is already starting to feel better.
 

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Finished repairing the upper edge of the door panels and repainted the hood. I know the color of the hood looks goofy with the black but I wanted to see what it would be like with the rally blue/yellow on an Outback. As you can see the hood was very sun faded, had millions of cracks and several dings down to the bare metal. At the least I needed to reseal the hood and 10$ of rattle cans goes a long ways.

Damage to the top edge:



Using a razor I cut a clean line back far enough to remove the damaged vinyl:


Using a razor, scotch pads and alcohol I removed the remainder of the foam padding and any residual oil/dirt as well as removed the window seal strip (~8 tabs to bend and one rivet pulls out with pliers). Surface prep is everything!


Foam padding acquired from Jo'Annes. I was told the material is typically used for padding inside quilts and can be "ironed on" to other materials. I forget what the material is called but it is very closely the same thickness as the vinyl. 1/2 yard was about $6. Trimmed to size and bonded with 3M Super 77 spray adhesive.




Suede with a red stitching hem line (my first time sewing with a sewing machine). Again, bonded with 3M 77. The wrinkles at the forward edge will be covered by the tweeter speaker triangle cover.



Night came before I could get finished shots in daylight, which I'll post tomorrow.
 

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The hood you can see before, wip, and after shots here. Wet sanded with 220 grit, Primed 2 coats, 4 coats blue/yellow, single clear coat, wet sanded with 1000 grit, 2 clear coats. As I said before, this is experimental, not the finished product, but you can't go wrong with gaining the experience, I'm happy with the results for rattlecans:




 

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Looks good with the yellow accents. The scoop makes the bill and draws your attention to the remainder of the yellow. Whole car in blue with yellow pinstriping???

What color are you going to do the grill in?

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The grill I will leave mostly stock but I will put yellow pinstriping trim tape inside the openings, similar to what you see with newer modded imprezas. The whole car will be a darker blue than the hood is at present, the Rally Blue (Mica Blue) seen on the WRC cars with yellow trim/decals.
 

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I can't tell from the pictures, did you allow for an exit for the passenger air bag?
The airbag opens from scoring lines on the other side of the vinyl. The flocking doesn't wrap a new material over the vinyl, think of it more as repainting the dashboard. The airbag should have no problems deploying if necessary.
 

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I promised to share final shots of the repaired door panel, also some general pictures of the overall interior.





 

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Small progress update. She's driving great, about to hit 220,000 miles. I love the blue hood, but she's due for a wash. I recently installed LED interior dome lights from www.v-leds.com and they work GREAT. For only 18$ for all 3 overhead lights this may be the best bang for buck I've spent so far on this project. Some small things to be installed over the next few days:





It's hard to see but there are Rally Armor yellow decals to add and the classic RA keychain. The next big piece fell into my lap a little earlier than I was expecting. As I plan to do a EJ257 swap and repaint the whole car professionally I will need an in-between daily driver while she is in pieces. So I picked this up for $500 last week. 97 Impreza 2.2 that drives great. More pictures of the newest member to our family soon.





I also need some feedback on the design concept I'm working towards. I'm planning on 1 or 2 light bars as rally/fog lights, one on roof rack and one on front bumper (http://www.v-leds.com/Universal-LED/Work-Lights-LED/240W-80-LED-LIGHT-BAR-p9782501-3-1.html). Along with 4x area lights for the perimeter (http://www.v-leds.com/Universal-LED/Work-Lights-LED/36W-36-LED-SPOT-AUX-WORK-p9776647-3-1.html). You can see a concept of the lighting and a custom hood I intend to build down the road (functional, not just show):



 

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Trying to decide which way to go with her so I need a little feedback. Soon she will be torn down to nothing for a complete repainting/restoration and during this process I would like to swap in a new powerplant. She's going to be heavier and I don't believe the ej25, with 230k miles, is up to the task. Problem is I love NA. I have an 04 WRX and don't get me wrong I love the power, but I hate the lag. All in I would appreciate what the expected cost and practicality of a few different ideas is:

Rebuild the ej25 with higher compression heads, racing flywheel/crank/pistons/connecting rods/cam and get the most out of the 2.5 while keeping her NA.
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Find a totaled STI and swap in the powerplant/wiring harness/drivetrain/transmission/suspension
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EZ30/EZ36/EG33 swap.

The last option is likely the most labor intensive, which I don't mind, so long as it's doable. I've read around and found some have the EG33 swap completed with great results but it is heavier and more difficult to fit into the engine bay. The EZ36 would be a dream swap for me. Power, torque, NA. I have read that some have attempted this swap and have had issues working around the immobilizer and limp home functions as well as no ecu capable of running the AVCS. Have any aftermarket ECUs finally been able to capture this function? Would swapping in the harness from a 3.6r outback be possible to retain the AVCS? I also don't know how I feel about drive by wire throttle as I prefer the direct response and control of a cable. I would love to build a chopped down and simplified EZ36 that retains the AVCS, perhaps with a manual control of its cam position.

Ideas?
 
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